GOTCHA! Chances are pretty good that if you are reading this post, you own an E or a Kicker! (I suspect that even you, DR.400, couldn't resist) So what the hell good did it do to plainly state in the subject line that this was for "S" Owners? So even if we did split the forum, you E and K guys would still cross over to see what's up in the "S" forum and us "S" guys would still sneek into the "E/K" forum like Special Forces into a Taliban cave. Sorry S guys for wasting your time, but thanks for helping me prove a point! (No apology to you other guys, you weren't suppose to read this anyway!) OK. Now the true test of character...will the E and Kicker guys who read this admit it by posting a reply?