smksignals Posted May 19, 2006 Who ever says that u can shift with out a clutch is the dumbest person on earth!!!!! they shouldnt even be riding a dirtbike!!! if u arnt supposed to then to the bikes gets messed up?!?!?!?! If theres a clutch on a bike that MEANS USE THE CLUTCH! unless ur an idiot like SOCALFMX and MARKOPOLO!!! ok!! USE THE CLUTCH IF U WANT UR BIKE TO LAST! and not being fixed every day!! END OF DISCUSION! Easy there junior ... I have a 91 YZ250WR that I have owned for the past 13 years, and the only time I use the clutch is to start and stop. I have never had a tranny problem, EVER. And the bike is older than you !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theclone Posted May 20, 2006 Screech! Chirp! Skid! Hop, hop, hop!!! Ooooppss? "Yeah, you can shift it without the clutch, but you?d better be good and know what you?re doing." -Don Kuhlman And he's talking about big bore streetbikes here. It is much easier and safer on a 450 or 250, and if you're in the dirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRF450-RIDER Posted May 20, 2006 Ive been offerd a job at Chapparral motorsports every single time ive gone there so YEA I GUESS I KNOW ABOUT BIKES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticky Posted May 22, 2006 How come you haven't taken the job yet? Won't your mommy drive you there after school? Sticky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRF450-RIDER Posted May 22, 2006 Sorry buddy i live a hour a way from it and when i can drive YES I WILL BE WORKING THERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMX Posted May 22, 2006 I never use the clutch to upshift and I've never had a problem. You can upshift in the air and you dont need the clutch. When the bike is in the air you can probably downshift with no clutch to since there is no load on the tranny. The only time I use the clutch is to start, stop, to downshift most time unless its real hairy I might not, and I'll feather it sometimes out of corners, and pop it on certain landings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTRacer7 Posted May 23, 2006 Ok, listen here, if you've ever ridden in an 18-wheeler, with anyone who has been driving for over a month, you will notice the clutch is not used, only for take-offs. That is because they utilize what is called a clutch-stop-plate. When you engage the clutch, the clutch-stop-plate hits against the push rod which pushes against the gears, this in turn creates added pressure that is unnecessary. This is also true with a dirtbike transmission. You can use the clutch, especially if you want to stay on the gas and shift, but the clutch is not necessary and will eventually wear faster that normal if you use it all the time as opposed to powershifting with out the clutch. You can do it even easier in the air with out a clutch because there is no load on the transmission. There. Case-closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuminoZ Posted May 25, 2006 Yeah TT knows whats up! Its like when ur cruising in ur car. Take my Audi S4 for example. IM driving along in say 4th gear pushing about 3100 RPM, traveling at a constant speed, I push the stick into neutral and let the RPM drop to say, about 2300ish. Holding the engine at a constant speed i then push the stick into 5th gear... What happens? The car shifts gears and im good to go, in 5th gear. The thing is, YOU CAN SHIFT ALMOST (EMPHASIS ON ALMOST) ANYTHING W/O THE CLUTCH, AS LONG AS YOU: time the engine ITS ALL ABOUT TIMING THE ENGINE rpm TO MATCH YOUR GEAR AND VELOCITY (SPPED YOUR TRAVELING)!!! i reccomend www.howsutffworks.com for thoes who requre more insight. Now starting from a standstill, that is a different case. let me know if i need to make a video... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carnage411 Posted May 25, 2006 OKay to sum this thread up, it is okay to shift in the air, as there is no load on the transmission. When you are on the ground, it is completely up to you. do you want to Redo your clutch sooner or later? Can you comprehend the term technique? If so please use the technique that was described earlier in the thread, and you should have no problems. P.S. I am 14 as you can tell by the fact that i am up at 12, plus ive only been riding for a year, so I probably have no clue what i am talking about okay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtrida010 Posted May 25, 2006 this thread was abut shifting in the air why yall alwayz gotta argue bout everything this topic has been discussed many times! use the cluth if you want and dont use it if you want. I guess u will find out inthe long run if its bad!JEEZ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XR_mad Posted May 25, 2006 Who ever says that u can shift with out a clutch is the dumbest person on earth!!!!! they shouldnt even be riding a dirtbike!!! if u arnt supposed to then to the bikes gets messed up?!?!?!?! If theres a clutch on a bike that MEANS USE THE CLUTCH! unless ur an idiot like SOCALFMX and MARKOPOLO!!! ok!! USE THE CLUTCH IF U WANT UR BIKE TO LAST! and not being fixed every day!! END OF DISCUSION! -------------------------------- 2003 CRF 450-Big gun,applied,tapers,FAST WAY no sir you are the biggest dumbass on earth constant mesh means the gears are always together the clutch is just so you can start the bike without stalling, do you know an autoclutch is fully engaged when you change gears? why would rekluse design a clutch like this if it was going to damage the gearbox?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtrida010 Posted May 25, 2006 because they are retarded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XR_mad Posted May 25, 2006 god not another one lemme guess another know it all who knows shit about how a motorbike gearbox works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtrida010 Posted May 25, 2006 of course i evented the 'gearbox' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XR_mad Posted May 25, 2006 you cant even spell hell they even have a spell check button, but you used a totally different word INVENTED is to create a totally new device/idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickdog454 Posted May 25, 2006 I asked a B class rider one day, and he said if you're not getting paid to ride, then shift with the clutch. exactly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyleyz Posted May 25, 2006 yea im 14 !! whats it to ur slow ASS Man, come down to Colorado and Ill show you how to shift...and eat roost for free! P.S. Im only 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dfcfu342 Posted May 26, 2006 CRF-Rider, You have to be the most immature 14 year old I have ever met. And at 14 years old myself Ive met quite a few. Its people like you that give the rest of us a bad rap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrashMachine Posted May 26, 2006 The idiocy of CRF-Rider makes me want to gouge out my eyeballs with my thumbs. Your tranny is constant-mesh...It's ok to powershift, if you know how. If you dont, use the clutch. Either way, you wont hurt anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazycracker Posted May 26, 2006 well i will say i shift with the clutch, i dont care what anyone says about shifting with a clutch. But when i do get out on a more supercross or areana cross style track i have the bike in a high gear and use the clutch to get more power, so a section alot of people do in 3 and shift in the air, i will do in forth and just use the clutch to get more power when needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
