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Well, on the Magna forum there has been an at least a 3 month long argument about chain lube. This is the first time that I've seen a major chain manufacturer recommend WD-40. I honestly was quite skeptical thinking WD40 would get past the orings and degrade the grease. Apparently, they are more worried about Kerosene, which I know a lot of people recommend for chain cleaning.

Am I the only one shocked by this?

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Edit - Probably should have put in General, mods can move.

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When I did trials comp. I only used WD40 to remove the water after washing and stop rust.

Nothing else ever.

The chain squeeked when riding after a while but life of chain and sprokets was the same as for people who lubed with chain lube.

Faster riding does need some chain oil to help keep the chain cool IMHO.

A bit of lube wont hurt (something more substantial than WD40) and I recomend it if you go faster than 20mph.

That letter talks about solid bush chains, not rubber o-ring types and it looks old, possibly older than o-ring chains are?

Just keep riding and enjoy the bike the way you always have.

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I used to use WD40 to clean the chain, but switched to kerosene because it's cheaper to buy and there was the controversy about WD40 sneaking past the orings. I have never had a problem with WD40 but the kerosene seems to work well too. In nearly every owners manual I can remember it always says to use kerosene.

I love a good chain lube debate.....got a link? :thumbsup:

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That letter talks about solid bush chains, not rubber o-ring types and it looks old, possibly older than o-ring chains are?

The letter also says: The 530 Sigma is a sealed o-ring chain that utilizes lithium grease. :thumbsup:

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First its the oil debate

next its the ACCT MCCT debate

then its break in debate

now the chain lube debate

after that its going to be the wax on plastic debate

Ilove the internet!!!

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First its the oil debate

next its the ACCT MCCT debate

then its break in debate

now the chain lube debate

after that its going to be the wax on plastic debate

Ilove the internet!!!

WD-40 works GREAT on plastics!! :thumbsup:

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First its the oil debate

next its the ACCT MCCT debate

then its break in debate

now the chain lube debate

after that its going to be the wax on plastic debate

Ilove the internet!!!

WHO's KICKin WHO's BUTT NEXT?

WD 40???? (WD=Water Displacement)

Kerosene????

WTH Has the World come to now?

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Im a firm believer in Mothers Back to black

hows that for Thread hyjacking

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The letter also says: The 530 Sigma is a sealed o-ring chain that utilizes lithium grease. :thumbsup:

I like how he capitalizes NOTHING ... yet then states Kerosense is bad... he must feel it degrades the orings and lets it in... but that means that SOMETHING can get in... I'm still just amazed by this letter to say the least.

PS - aren't all oring chains sealed???

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Well the letter has to be at least two years old - googling John M Linden TSUBAKI =

John Maxwell Linden

Oct. 31, 2004

John Maxwell "Keone" Linden, 63, of Wailea, Maui, a Tsubaki Inc. Motorcycle Division manager, died at home. He was born in Los Angeles. He is survived by wife Marsha. Private services. Donations suggested to Hawaii Community Foundation.

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Another mention...

from Motor Cyclist Magazine on Chain Care (this

comes from the November 1998 issue of "The Idiot's Guide to Bike Washing").

The article reads...

Chain Care

Looking for chain maintenance recommendations for the latest O-ring chains,

we went to Tsubaki's John Linden. He confirmed what he'd told us through

the years, and thusly, told readers throughout time: Keep high pressure

water and compressed air away from the chain. Don't hack on the chain with

a wire brush to lossen dirt. The proper method of cleaning is to flood the

chain with WD-40 or a similar water-displacement formula. Using a rag to

catch the excess, liberally spray the chain down one section at a time. Now

rub the dirt off, wipe off the excess lube and repeat this process until the

entire chain is sparkling. Simple. What about lubing? Since O-ring chains

come impregnated with a lifelong supply of lubricant, Linden suggests using

WD-40 again to keep the outside of the chain from corroding. Using the long

straw on the spray can, squirt lube on the edges of the chain, not the

rollers. Four to six revolutions should do. Be sure to wipe off the

excess - from the chain and the rest of the bike.

If you feel you must lube your chain, do so with one specifically

designed for O-ring chains.

End of article on Chain Care.

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The letter also says: The 530 Sigma is a sealed o-ring chain that utilizes lithium grease. :thumbsup:

It also says "SOLID and EXTENDED bushings".

That is confusing, I choose to ignore the letter and stay with my opinion.

No disrespect intended to anyone - you are all good people.

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Well the letter has to be at least two years old - googling John M Linden TSUBAKI =

John Maxwell Linden

Oct. 31, 2004

John Maxwell "Keone" Linden, 63, of Wailea, Maui, a Tsubaki Inc. Motorcycle Division manager, died at home. He was born in Los Angeles. He is survived by wife Marsha. Private services. Donations suggested to Hawaii Community Foundation.

RIP John. :thumbsup:

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I like how Kero cleans it up and I use PJ1 Clear because it doesn't seem to sling all over everything. :thumbsup:

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I like how Kero cleans it up and I use PJ1 Clear because it doesn't seem to sling all over everything. :thumbsup:

Tell me about I cant stand the Suzuki chain moly spray....it gets all over everything

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I'm using dry lubes on everything now.....they don't fling off and they attract very little dirt. :thumbsup:

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