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Hi guys,

I had a look at my brake pads today. The front ones are AP Racing pads, new in April, at 4000 km (when I bought the bike second-hand). The bike has about 13500 km on it now. The rear ones appear to be the original Nissin pads that came with the bike (10 years old). They squeal quite a bit, but brake fine, so I haven't changed them.

The rear pads come with a plastic (?) protector plus a sheet metal clip, pictured below, but the front ones don't. Is this normal? Is the protector + metal cover part of the pad kit, or part of the bike?

Do the rear ones look glazed to you guys? Any other tips will be appreciated. It's always good to learn.

All together:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/individual61/brake%20pads/IMG_6488-wmk.jpg

Rear pads:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/individual61/brake%20pads/IMG_6489-wmk.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/individual61/brake%20pads/IMG_6491-wmk.jpg

Front Pads:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/individual61/brake%20pads/IMG_6492-wmk.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/individual61/brake%20pads/IMG_6493-wmk.jpg

d.

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The clip and insulator are Honda parts I've never bought a set of replacement pads that came with those items. But I do re-use them on the rear as they keep some of the heat generated by using the brakes from transferring to the fluid and causing brake fade. At $22.00 per set I would replace all of those pads with carbon pads.

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Thanks for the clarification on the metal clips.

Regarding the carbon pads, I've just read on Wikipedia that they are basically only used in race situations, where the brake pad temp will be consistently high, and that they are very poor when cold (i.e. city, highway, basically real-life use). Not to mention that, to me, the 30 bucks that I paid for the AP Racing pair is not pocket change.

Edit: and, I should clarify, by extrapolation carbon pads, if they were available here for my bike, would probably be a great deal more expensive.

d.

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Sorry I did not notice you were in Chile I would imagine things for these bikes are more expensive there. I've noticed Carbon pads stop better and dont squeal like those sintered metal or fully metalic pads, but dont last as long. They are easier on rotors also. Those look a little heat fatigued to me, or maybe it is the close up view.

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Ah! I didn't know that about carbon pads.

Added stopping power would be attractive, but more expensive pads that last less would not be so attractive. Also, less rotor wear would be good. I guess it comes down to how much a front disc rotor would cost :-)

I have even considered changing the caliper and rotor for something of a larger diameter, I find the XR's front brake is not too great on the road.

Have you used these in traffic, you know, cold morning starts, braking for traffic lights, idiot drivers, that sort of thing?

d.

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No on road use for me, I use my bike for enduro events, but I've never had trouble stopping even in the winter. I use carbon on the front and rear and replace the front every third set of rears as we tend to use the front brake much less than the rears. Those wave rotors are not cheap and I try to use the pads that are the easiest on them. Carbon pads are the same price as the others here.

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I had a quick online check didn't see carbon pads available here. Oh well. :thumbsup:

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