I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but I think the 650R is the outcast of this forum page. The 650R has NOTHING in common with the 650L, 600R, or 600L. Also, the 650R owners and 650L owners, for the most part, don't like each other much. Most conversations about 650L's, 600R's, & 600L's have nothing useful in them for 650R owners because the 650R doesn't share any common parts. Anyone who thinks the 650R should have a seperate forum page, reply to this thread. If you dissagree, do NOT reply to this.