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I am posting this here, and have also posted it in the Dual Sport and Land Use/Legislation forums

Found this on the District 36 forum, posted by Dave Picket (District LAO). I'm considering it a strong rumor for now (Dave states it's verbal, but from a reliable source):

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Yesterday, I received information important to ALL of those that have made the conversion since Februaly 1, 2004.

CARB [California Air Resources Board] in conjunction with the DMV, has submitted 1,300 names and registration documents for illegal conversions.

Owners with converted bikes will be notified that these vehicles are illegal, and the street legal plates and registrations will be suspended immediately.

As these vehicles do not meet emission regulations for road operation, CARB has clamped down on these non-compliant vehicles, and owners will be notified. It will be up to the owner of these vehicle to register their bikes under current regulation requirements of Red, Orange, or Green Sticker status to proper registration format. What I have learned is that vehicles converting prior to this date, will be "Grandfathered" and all to remain as registered. Future registration of conversions can only be made on vehicles manufacturered from 1977 and back. 1978 [with out certified "road" engines] and newer models will not be allowed to be converted.

At this time, this is what I know. I would guess that owners will be notified by DMV, CARB, or both. I will try to post more as I get additional information.

A question was raised about purchased units that were installed with a conversion kit from a dealer at time of sale. I have been told that these too are illegal. A gray area exists on "out of state" converted bikes. I will advise more as information comes forth.

I am checking into the CHP Form 888 that issues the guidelines and requirements to meet California street legal requirements, but understand that this form has now been "suspended." This action has taken place starting with CARB, with DMV doing the clean up work. I have also heard that if you have one of these vehicles, and are stopped by a peace officer, they will confiscate your license plate.

All of this is verbal right now, but the source is reliable. Look for Press Releases shortly from ORBA (Off Road Business Association)

CLORV members are asking the MIC (Motorcycle Industry Council) for a statement on this. News will be coming out on this in the coming weeks.

Sorry to be the delivery source for this bad news. As OHV recreation continues to grow even bigger, more anti-OHV organizations are doing what they can in a methodical, paced way to erradicate OHV as we know it.

Political: VOTE! Remember the leadership in governing agencies are appointed by the elected majority leadership in our state. The way to change things is by getting involved, get educated on the candidates, get educated on the issues, and VOTE. Yes, your vote does matter.

See www.CLORV.org for more information on pro OHV or candidates that have responded to the CLORV OHV questionaire..OHV voter education is out there, so get informed. The current "system" is not working......................

Dave Pickett LAO

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I wanted to dual sport my WR but just had a feeling it would not last with everybody trying to get everything dual sported.This SUCKS I had a feeling the DMV&CARB would put a stop too it.

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What does the orange sticker pertain to? I know what the red and green stickers are.

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^ i was wondering about the orange sticker business too..

either way this is a fascist movement :thumbsup:

1300 bikes though for the entire state is kinda slim in my opinion, not much of a voice to be heard.. but i dont want to just sit here and take it.. i mean shit, i just got finished plating my 2006 wr450f :ride:

John.

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The orange sticker is for Factory Supported riders/bikes, these bikes have never been sold so they have no red/green sticker. This sticker came about after the 2005 Sawmill Enduro the rangers did not want to let bikes with no stickers ride, Dave Pickett (D36 LAO) worked hard for this.

Kraig Traum

AMA-D36 Enduro Steward/BOD

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The orange sticker is for Factory Supported riders/bikes, these bikes have never been sold so they have no red/green sticker. This sticker came about after the 2005 Sawmill Enduro the rangers did not want to let bikes with no stickers ride, Dave Pickett (D36 LAO) worked hard for this.

Kraig Traum

AMA-D36 Enduro Steward/BOD

Thanks for the info. I knew I would learn something today that I didn't know yesterday. :thumbsup:

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Since the XR650's sold in CA come with an emissions doo-hickey - does that mean the Big Pig is OK???

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Since the XR650's sold in CA come with an emissions doo-hickey - does that mean the Big Pig is OK???

No it doesn't. The 650R is a green sticker bike and is not certified for on road emissions.

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No it doesn't. The 650R is a green sticker bike and is not certified for on road emissions.

Double rat farts!

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Now that I think of it, I did all the paper work and paid for the fees prior to Feb. 1, 2004.

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Bad news for us DS'ers for sure. I am glad that I am safe and another plus for me is my bike just may have gained some value. Hopefully this is just a rumor and won't pan out for the rest of you. I have been rather shocked at how many people have been getting the plate after all the hoops I had to jump through to make the deadline before the cut-off.

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Everybody that has a bike that was plated lately KNOWS it wasn't supposed to be plated. It'll be hard to say much about it if it does happen. Hopefully this won't pan out though.

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I highly doubt that this will take place. It seems like some hotshot who sits under the dome here in Sacramento has nothing better to do! He should go after something like forklifts instead of dirt bikes with plates.

In my opinion I doubt that they will have the funds to support such action. Heck this state is so upside down we can't even pay attention.

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Cool!!! This helps increase the value of my plated '02 YZ426. Nice! Now, it's my drastically depreciating two-strokes I need help with.

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I wonder if my plated 2-stroke is on their list. It's in the questionable category of bikes brought in from out of state. :thumbsup:

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I wonder if my plated 2-stroke is on their list. It's in the questionable category of bikes brought in from out of state. :thumbsup:

Reads that if your bike was plated before 2004 you're golden. You've got a smoker with added value.

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Same post is in the "DUAL SPORT" thread... seems like a better home for this discussion?!

Only if you're looking for comments from people who don't live in CA. IMO, this is where this topic belongs. Hell, look at how many posts have been made to the topics in each forum. Lots more here.

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.Same post is in the "DUAL SPORT" thread... seems like a better home for this discussion?!

Not sure. How about a link in all the other forums to this thread since it is a CA issue? I don't think of a ktm type bike with a plate as a klr650 type dual sport.

What does everyone else think?

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