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Color and parts availabilty for a fact, there isn't near the aftermarket for the TTR. I checked out both before I got my CRF, the TTR just seemed to be a cheaper build quality (things like the voltage regulator just tacked on the frame, out in the open) and just felt cheaper. The TTR also doesn't have a full frame, it uses the engine as part of the frame.

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You can check them out somewhat by reviewing the data on their web-sites, (Honda and Yamaha) but the best comparison would be to just go to the showroom and check them both out in person.

If your lucky, your area has a combined dealership that will have both at the same location. In SoCal, almost all dealerships carry all 4 Japanese brands under one roof. Some are actually taking on a shopping mall atmosphere with food and beverage outlets inside! Makes it user friendly for certain........

Good luck and ride safely.

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Personally, I would go Red. Better quality, bulletproof motors. Some documented aftermarket/swapping parts options.

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I have this comparison i wrote saved on my computer because I post it about once every 3 months, enjoy. BTW I have both bikes.

My impressions:

In the speed category, the TT-R seems to have better accelleration, this could be due to the shorter stroke, it also revs faster, which makes for more frequent shifting and a narrower powerband the CRF has better top end, and therefore a higher top speed

As for torque, i think the CRF wins that one, its way easier to wheelie it seems to me, maybe I'm not used to the powerband hit of the TT-R since it isnt my primary bike i dunno.

For comfort, the TT-R's seat is very grippy and narrow, and i find it uncomfortable to sit for long periods of time, the CRF's is a bit wider, and doesn't have the grippy bumps that the TT-R has. I've never had a problem sliding on either, but some may find the TT-R to give a little more traction, with the drawback of hurting your butt. Another thing for comfort, is the location of switches. I hate the location of the TT-R's engine start (and stop for that matter) button(s) It makes it a little hard to push the button and give a little gas if neccessary. Not wanting to be biased, I'd have to also say that the CRF's choke lever is buried inside the frame and can be a little tough finding, sometimes. The TT-R's choke is right there on the side in easy reach, and actually says choke on it. It's also adjustable as to how much choke to give, whereas the CRF's has only 3 positions and nothing in between

Handling, I personally think that the CRF has better handling, but I also think that my TT-R's suspension isn't set up properly, i think it's too stiff and i know it's too stiff for my 115 pound brother.

There are some other issues like the frame setup, the Honda's is a complete frame, but the Yamaha uses the engine cradle as part of the frame? If I have missed anything please add, but try not to be biased.

Honda specs

223 cc engine

bore x stroke 65.5mm x 66.2mm

comp ratio 9.0:1

carb 26mm piston-valve keihn

final drive 13t front 50t rear

Yamaha specs

engine 223 cc

bore x stroke 70mm x 50mm

carb 26mm teikei

final drive can someone help me here? i think the rear is 49

The come with the same tires pirelli mt320

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286821&highlight=tt-r+230+crf

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139253&highlight=tt-r+230+crf

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201765&highlight=tt-r+230

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248993&parentpage=4

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252055&parentpage=7&highlight=CRF230+TTR230

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284851&highlight=CRF230+TTR230

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JTred,

That is exactly what I found. The TT-R does have a bit better acceleration, but with poor handling, that power means nothing. The whole bike has such an awkward feel to it, very uncomfortable. Dumb things on the bike though, no dip stick. Just a glass sort of window thing you look at to check the oil level. Switches are out of place and another thing is that there is no key, just a push "on" and "off" button. Almost no aftermarket support, basically I really think Honda has a much better 230 trail bike.

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Ok, I'll play. lets see a pic of the klx 125 or are you just another 14 year old crfkilla? If you do have a klx what are you doing here?

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Ok, I'll play. lets see a pic of the klx 125 or are you just another 14 year old crfkilla? If you do have a klx what are you doing here?

well both crfkilla and thug live in california so maybe they are the same person :thumbsup: ... and thug the 230 doesnt suck, every bike has there ups and downs so there really isnt any bike out there that sucks, o and im pretty damn positive that both of these 230's would destroy your klx125 so before you say that a bike sucks make sure that your bike is "better" then it

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