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I crashed (again). I was wearing the "chicken wing" elbow guards, but they just slid up and I got rashed anyway. Does anybody have any luck with elbow guards

working when you're falling forward/mx? Any brand recommendations? No use to wear if they are just going to slide up/down and cause arm pump. I could see they could be useful for trees but I don't do that type of riding.

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