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02 TTR125L vs 02 XR100 report

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So I got back from getting my new bike.. 1989 Tw200, and I find a 2002 Xr100 ridding in our field. Iv been wanting to ride with "A RED BIKE" :thumbsup: for awhile now.. so I break out the TTR125L and we race around. WHAT A BLAST! these bikes are so fun with each other, there the same.. yet so different. I asked him what mods he did, he said nothing, its stock. But I could see he at least took the spark arrestor out... whoopty do. we traded bikes and wow, the TTR has more power... but the Xr has some kind of weird torque to it or something. When we drag race, the TTR outran it every time, BUT the Xr100 can wheelie 100 times easier! I mean its SO EASY! The dude can ride across the entire field in a wheelie shifting through the gears. I cant even come close to that on my TTR. So I had him try out my bike and he can get it up in second just like his of course but when he rides it and shifts, the front end comes down. He tried it many times and the same thing. like the TTR gears are "NOTCHY" and pull it down when he shifted. Its like the Xr100 is geared closer.. or something. He can ride out 2nd gear wheelie though just like his.. but he cant shift. Either way... it makes the Xr seem alot more fun to ride. My TTR is far from stock too. the motor is pretty stock though, its "uncorked" with airbox cut and air filter plate cut (the mod they showed on TTR125L.com along time ago.) its also jetted and has an end-cap for the pipe in replace if the SA, which believe it or not is a nice little boost. With the SA off the end.. the bikes runs like crap.. just really loud. anyways, with all the BBR stuff on my bike the suspension is SOOO STIFF now. I rode his Xr and I miss the smoothness, almost like its EASIER to ride, and wheelie. (more springy) My handlebars are also way lower. Overall the TTR feels way stiffer and tighter on everything..with the pro taper 1 1/8 bars, fork brace, and everything else. which makes it.. actually.. feel heavy. His Xr was awesome.. and it has me thinking maybe I bought the wrong bike. or maybe I just have my suspension and stuff setup wrong... I dunno. My rear BBR spring is loosened as much as possible pretty much.. cause it JARS my back on trails.. I hate it! but its still way too stiff... in my book. crazy. I dont like how low my bars are either, I bought an RSW triple clamp (with no raisers) with the PROTAPER WOODS HI BEND BLACK from yamaha Santa Cruz. This was all done along time ago.. but I was never really happy with the feel. anyways.. just wanted to report... the XR100 is awesome.

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Thanks so much! Ive been going through the same delima. My freind has a BONE STOCK 06 CRF100 for a pit bike and i have a 03 ttr125L for a pit bike, very modded, yz85 suspension, 150cc kit, lightened fly wheel, T2 bars, much more (my gargage). But i rode his CRF and it was so much more fun to ride, smaller, lighter, easier to flick off jumps. I am almost positive im gonna get a 100 they are so much fun, everything you said was right on the money!!!

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I have had both, and the biggest drawbacks of the XR/CRF 100 are the super low 1st gear (essentially a granny gear) and the all drum brakes. :thumbsup:

The TTR seems to have a little wider gear ratio, but its final gearing is much higher, and top speeds are a little better, and who likes trying stoppies with drums? :ride:

The brakes alone are what made me decide on the TTR for the Mrs, along with the extra 25cc.

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How don't you like the BBR suspention. I put my bike back to stock, and I now max out going up the jumps. Can't stop maxing out. If you don't like it though, I will trade you for the BBR stuff.

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Wow, my story is completely the opposite. I've been riding conversion XR's for about 17 years or so. I sold them so I don't get stuck with it when the yzf150 comes out. Anyway, I built two highly modified xr120's with xr80 wheels for my backyard track and the field behind my house. I rode my little xr's around the field with my friends (they had TTR's) for a few months. We battled hard but I could usually pull them in certain spots (home field advantage), but they were right on my butt most of the time and I was riding on the edge thinking, "I ride this track everyday, how are they staying up with me?" Then I rode their bikes. Oh man, the TTR soak up way more than the xr's and I had a works shock and front springs. All those bumps that were killing me, I couldn't feel on the TTR. I sold my xr's and got a TTR. Now that it's fully built, there aren't many XR's that can beat me. However, the XR does have a better motor when it's built. A 145cc kitaco motor is absolutely sick it's so fast. And as far as that lame first gear, it will go up a tree. You'll never use it anywhere else, but there isn't many hills it won't climb. Albeit really slow. Both bikes have their pluses and minuses and two of either one side by side on a little track is nothing but smiles. :thumbsup:

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I have had both, and the biggest drawbacks of the XR/CRF 100 are the super low 1st gear (essentially a granny gear) and the all drum brakes. :thumbsup:

The TTR seems to have a little wider gear ratio, but its final gearing is much higher, and top speeds are a little better, and who likes trying stoppies with drums? :ride:

The brakes alone are what made me decide on the TTR for the Mrs, along with the extra 25cc.

Thats what turned me off on the xr at first too, but on my friends, he tightened the brakes way up and now they work almost as good as discs.

Good thing is i get to keep my ttr to so i can put them to the test, back to back.

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Yea thats the thing, I dont do stuff like stopies, or jump. I hate jumping my TTR. even with all the stuff I put into it.. even with alittle air it hits hard, bangs down. im not talking about bottoming.. I mean .. its just heavy feeling and is not smooth.I feel every frickin hole or root on the track. its crazy.. theres a spot on our trail that has alot of roots coming out.. and when I drive over them it feels terrible. jars me around and everything. I took my new tw200 up the same trail and its 100 times smoother.. being the softer suspension. I imagine the Xr100 is the same way. so.. if thats what you mean by SOAKING UP bumps .. I dunno. The absolute best way to describe my TTR is "notchy". Im 125-130lbs 5'5 by the way.

Dude I threw so much money into my TTR.. got everything on legit, tight and no shortcuts.. and I dunno If I like it anymore after that freaking XR.

I wish so bad I could ride a stock TTR to see if its just my setup or whatever. Either way, I gotta ride the XR100 more to see whats really going on, I wasnt on it very long. I immediately dismissed it because the power was not there at all. The TTR has a nice 4 stroke pull. But as far as everything else.. dont know.

or maybe it could just be all novelty

my bike:

air box / air breather mods

110/17.5 jets

Aluminum end-cap for pipe (replaces SA)

Sprocket Specialist Front/Rear sprockets

PRC chain guide

BBR RK racing gold chain

BBR frame craddle

BBR front/rear springs (15W fork oil)

RSW 1 1/8 triple clamp

RSW fork brace

Pro Taper 1 1/8 bars

Engines Only shift lever

Heres a pic of my bike from a couple years ago. You can see the bars from this pic pretty good. I think they look really low and too wide. They feel it anyways. I think my options might be limited though cause I have that 1 1/8 triple clamp.

barsip8.jpg

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