here is a shot of my new seat from Rick mayer. http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/garage.php?do=viewvehicle&vid=6651 this is the guy who made it, I told him to make it flat, very little ramp, narrow at the nose. got it on sale, $269 + ship http://www.homestead.com/prosites-rmcycle/index.html I know some of you will laugh at it. you wouldn't after a 400 mile day. I didnt buy this to be a pit bike but to put on some serious DS mile days. besides I'm into function not fashion on MC's. Its not a seat if your racing, though the wings do not hamper any leg movement, it is not as crash resistant as the stocker, the price you pay for comfort. Beats the cinderblock suppository that comes stock.