ya i did take in everyone's advice, but the fact of the matter is that i need some protection to suit my type of riding conditions and terrain. I'm sure it is the same reason that everyone else purchased the plate they did. I ride in some rocky stuff sometimes, and i realy wanted to see those engine sides protected. I realy only ride about 25% track, and 75@ trail. So if i am having an all track day i can just pull it off if the weight difference is that considerable. By the way does anyone know the exact weight difference between a stock plate and the devol plate?