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I bumped into the owner of the Brevard track today and asked what's up with him being able to operate the track and the noise issues that shut him down. He said there's another hearing coming up and the more dirtbikers there the better it will be for him.

So, once again our sport needs to be defended. Can any of you, that use that track or just want to support it, show up for this hearing? The date is Tuesday, March 13th at the Dunham Hall, Brevard College, 7:00PM.

That's all I know about it other than he's asking for our presence so I'm planning to be there. How 'bout it ya'll?

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I will do my best to attend.

You know we're talking North Carolina here, right?

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i heard from the news that the track is being shutdown. is this right? and is there anything else we can do?

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freakin liberals....... how can "they" tell you what to do with your land???? america has gone crazy....oh wait my bad i forgot , shutting down a track that provides kids and adults something postive and healthy to do is a priority .....there is nothing else to concentrate enforcement efforts on ,,say like illegal immigrants that flock here and dont pay taxes........sily me . bad evil mean dirty hell raising bikers....

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Whoa there....Thumper dude. This was a noise issue, nothing to do with immigration laws or liberals. Unfortunately this really is about our area becoming over populated and loosing our room to play....and there's not a whole lot we can do to stem the tide. Same circumstances happened to Mtn Home MX. Let's just do all we can to patronize and support the areas that remain plus these new ones coming up like Revolution Park. :applause:

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it just sucks when ever you try to get something in your own community and yet you can't because a few old people don't like it because of a little noise. where is this revolution park that you speak of?

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Nothing to do with illegal aliens, no . Noise issue , yes....but to say that it has nothing to do with liberals in local gov't? I dont know about that. I think the noise issue was just the little excuse they needed to do away with the riding. After all, according to a liberal, a dirtbike can do 20,000 years of environmental damage in seconds . They spew hydrocarbons contributing to the fantasy disaster they are pushing (global warming, oh my). they lead to erosion, deforestation, mass extinction, etc. According to a liberal, there is just about nothing worse than an ATV or dirtbike and they need to be stamped out ASAP. The noise is just a convenient excuse for them

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goosedog , my reply was to make a point that there are alot of other more pressing issues that should be dealt with than some noise being made by motorcycles in an apple orchard during the day. it just pisses me off the see people raise such hell over this and overlook the other real promblems we got .

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I hear ya. :applause: We all need to rant sometimes and I was just making sure you knew the cause.

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i feel better now .... i think i will go hug my bike and sing a camp fire song ! haha just playing.

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Nothing to do with illegal aliens, no . Noise issue , yes....but to say that it has nothing to do with liberals in local gov't? I dont know about that. I think the noise issue was just the little excuse they needed to do away with the riding. After all, according to a liberal, a dirtbike can do 20,000 years of environmental damage in seconds . They spew hydrocarbons contributing to the fantasy disaster they are pushing (global warming, oh my). they lead to erosion, deforestation, mass extinction, etc. According to a liberal, there is just about nothing worse than an ATV or dirtbike and they need to be stamped out ASAP. The noise is just a convenient excuse for them

Ben for President!!!!!!!!

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Nothing to do with illegal aliens, no . Noise issue , yes....but to say that it has nothing to do with liberals in local gov't? I dont know about that. I think the noise issue was just the little excuse they needed to do away with the riding. After all, according to a liberal, a dirtbike can do 20,000 years of environmental damage in seconds . They spew hydrocarbons contributing to the fantasy disaster they are pushing (global warming, oh my). they lead to erosion, deforestation, mass extinction, etc. According to a liberal, there is just about nothing worse than an ATV or dirtbike and they need to be stamped out ASAP. The noise is just a convenient excuse for them

You got it exactly right!! Stupid treehuggin' liberals!!!!!!

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I emailed the AMA and this is what they had to say. maybe someone one here could contact the owner of the land with some of this advice.

The off-highway motorcycle (OHM) and all terrain vehicle (ATV) community are

facing a "quiet crisis". A decade ago, we heard from four or five enthusiasts a

year who were having zoning or other legal problems with either their children's

backyard practice area or with a commercial motocross track they had been

developing.

Today, that's risen to five or six a week. That's five or six parents a week

who are faced with having to force their young budding Ricky Carmichaels and

Bubba Stewarts off their machines and away from their dreams. That's five or

six track owners having to put up with increasing and outrageous demands before

an operating permit will be issued, or having their permits revoked completely.

Sometimes enthusiasts are completely blind sided, without a clue of any

problems. They are suddenly fined by the local police. Or they get a letter

from the county attorney telling them that their use is not in conformity with

the local law.

Your first step.

The first thing you should do, no matter who you are or what your circumstances

are, is TALK TO AN ATTORNEY!

In the 50 states, there are more than 4,500 counties and a plethora of towns,

townships and boroughs that enforce zoning requirements, covenants and

restrictions. And each one is different! The zoning officials could tell you

just about anything and you'd have no choice but to believe it. Plus, it is

probable they will be interpreting the regulations from a perspective varied

from yours.

So the only person equipped to understand your next move is a local attorney,

and not just any attorney. You'll need one with specialized training or

experience in zoning and land-use issues. If you don't know one, then try

asking around. Local business owners may know a good one and the nearest city

or county seat should have a bar association with an attorney referral program.

Or you can visit the American Bar Associations website (http://www.abanet.org/home.html

<https://mail.ama-cycle.org/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.abanet.org/home.html>

) click on the "lawyer locator" at the bottom of the page for more assistance.

Step two.

Explore the issues with your attorney. While most of the publicly stated issues

will vary, most of these situations come up because of one reason: noise. Take

a look at what you're doing. Is your land really big enough to handle the

track? Is your son or daughter or their friends running machines that will meet

the AMA's 99 decibel competition restriction (some states have a lower

standard)? Do you allow riding every minute that the sun's up? Loud, raucous

parties? Have you altered the landscape (jumps, berms, whoops) without the

proper permits?

Maybe there is something you can do to bring your neighbors around and put a

stop to this before it becomes a problem. Perhaps a visit to the local bike

shop for a quieter pipe is in order. Maybe the kids just need to learn to

repack their mufflers. You can use trees or landscaping to act as a sound

and/or dust barrier. Or maybe you just need to sit down and talk with your

neighbors and see if you can't work out more appropriate practice hours. If the

neighbors won't talk, your attorney can suggest that everyone affected be

referred to mediation --where they will have to talk to come up with a solution.

Or maybe the issues are more complicated. Your agricultural extension agent can

tell you about successful strategies to reduce dust. You can pick up an

inexpensive decibel meter at Radio Shack to do sound testing. The Motorcycle

Industry Council publishes a guide for sound testing off-highway motorcycles and

ATVs. The sound test procedure is outlined in the AMA Sports Rules book, which

is available from the AMA's Events and Entertainment Department.

Things to Consider

NIMBYs (Not in my Backyard) they're in your community or you wouldn't have

contacted us -- the self-anointed protectors of their own self-interest.

Many areas suffer from the added infestation of NIMEYs -- timid public officials

who are heard to say, usually privately, "Not in my Election Year." Faced with

a potentially controversial issue such as people having fun on off-highway

vehicles (OHV), what's a conscientious landowner to do?

If the local officials are having complaints from the neighbors their natural

reaction is going to be to shut it down completely. These folks have enough to

do running their jurisdiction so problems tend to be handled very quickly and

decisively. They are going to want to handle the complaint as fast as possible.

Whether a politician's first impression of a riding area is favorable or not, no

officeholder wants to suffer the political fallout of approving a publicly

unacceptable project.

First, try not to panic. Second, consider these strategies.

Move decisively to defuse fiction, gossip, and innuendo. Be aware of issues

that may inflame your particular community and take the initiative to provide

the facts frankly and clearly before the ugly rumors get around. Why is the

governing board considering outlawing all riding areas? Is there really a

problem?

Whether drawn from reason or from emotion, community opposition reflects

neighbors' concerns that their lives have changed for the worse. When the sound

of anything other than a lawnmower permeates their ear the mantra "It will

reduce our property values" and/or "quality of life" issues immediately set in.

Concerned citizens are right to be alert to neighborhood threats, but NIMBYs

carry it to an extreme, exaggerating the threats or refusing to accept something

that's a normal part of community life. Perhaps they are beside themselves

because they moved to their current location to escape city noise that is now

inexorably following them.

There is plenty of empirical evidence to the contrary. But because these

concerns are often raised in an emotional context, mere presentation of such

research will be ineffective in quelling the concerns. NIMBY tactics encompass

both city policies, such as zoning ordinances that make it difficult to ride and

the organizing and advocacy activities of citizens seeking to block an OHV area

from being sited in their neighborhood.

Here are some points to remember:

NIMBYism is human nature, but you need to rise above it.

Your job is to look out for the whole riding community: ask questions or find

the information you need to evaluate the concerns. Indignant neighbors can, and

do, shut down many facilities with regularity because of misuse. And this is

not limited to OHV riding areas. We hear about all kinds of rehabilitation

centers, group homes, community housing, motorsports facilities, shooting

ranges, sports complexes, etc. being shut down constantly because of the NIMBY

attitude that goes hand-in-hand with urban sprawl.

You WILL meet opposition

Changes of any kind - even positive changes - often receive a wary response from

neighbors. The widespread prejudice and fear that surrounds OHV recreation

almost guarantees that, no matter how good your riding area, or how carefully

you plan, you will receive some community opposition.

Know the difference between discrimination and legitimate opposition.

There could be many legitimate reasons for opposing a riding area: concerns

about noise, rider density, design, parking, access or other characteristics of

the site. You may not agree with these concerns, but they are not

discriminatory. It is only discrimination if the opposition is based on the

characteristics of the people who will be using the area.

Every proposal, and every neighborhood, is unique.

It will take longer than you think.

There is no universal "quick-fix" formula. Overcoming the NIMBY mindset

requires an understanding of: 1) the underlying concerns of opponents and 2) the

tools and techniques to address these concerns. Strategies to combat (or avoid)

NIMBY conflicts must also vary. Perhaps the most important lesson a rider can

learn by examining others' experiences with NIMBYism is the importance of

knowing the intricacies of his or her own situation. Balancing the

expectations, needs and demands of a diverse population can be difficult for

local authorities, especially when the "quality of life" and "excessive noise"

cards are played.

So there is a perceived/real problem now what?

Unfortunately this is an all too common problem all across this country with the

advent of urban sprawl and the perpetuation of the "NIMBY" mindset. Your

situation is not unique but it still is the most important one in your area

right now. Talking hasn't worked. Government officials are determined to put a

stop to your activity, sometimes activity that has been going on for

generations. Its time to call out the troops!

This is where the AMA Government Relations Department can help. We do all we

can to protect your right to ride but as a member-driven organization, one of

our most effective tools is our ability to muster grassroots political action.

This is where we think we can really help you with the problem, as long as it is

not supportive of any activity that is illegal (trespass, excessive noise,

etc.).

The AMA Government Relations Department can send a specialized mailer to AMA

members in your area. We'll let them know about the problem and suggest what

they can do to respond effectively. We'll need your local zip codes and we'll

also need advance time, especially if you live in an area with lots of members.

We can also write letters in support of your position to the board or other

officials hearing your case. We'll need accurate lists of the board members,

their titles and an address where they get official mail. We'll also need some

advance warning to write effective letters! We do have some publications that

may be helpful for the officials to understand more about the sport as well as

helping you to muster support and effectively communicate with the local

officials.

That being said, we would like to see all the motorcyclists and ATV riders in

your area band together to make sure we continue to protect your right to ride

and an overall ban of OHV recreation is not instituted. The ONLY way to achieve

this is to present such a strong and united front from our side that the elected

officials would be afraid to propose anything detrimental to that right.

We are looking for someone to lead the charge and help us form an AMA Community

Council in your area. If you can provide some of the local legwork and

leadership we can provide several resources to find others willing to help. Are

you willing to step up to be this person? If so I'll send you a package of

information to get you started.

AMA Community Councils work closely with the AMA Government Relations Department

and serve as the first line of both offense and defense when local issues arise.

Local, state and even national issues are much easier to handle if we are

organized for action ahead of time and do not wait for the officials to

completely shut down the area.

Terry Lee Cook

Grassroots Manager

American Motorcyclist Association

Rights, Riding, Racing

13515 Yarmouth Drive

Pickerington, OH 43147

614-856-1900 ext. 1288

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