""I read that KTM only did about 150 miles of prerrunning on this bike?" -- That just may be correct, "prerunning" or testing in Baja. But don't be thinking this was a 150mile old design. You know KTM has been working on this over there. Same as when Honda rode the 450 at the B1K last year - it wasn't a new thing for them, they'd been working hard on it. "makes you think if those (baja untested) bikes had been working honda wouldn't have won" -- I still believe Honda couldda come from behind and won it. "You could go even further back with HUSKY. Honda has it wired NOW. Team Green would not just step back in and dominate. KTM's bike came from the Dakar program. The bugs should have been out. Honda dominated with their 450X right out of the box- even to my surprise. If you were in Vegas- would you bet on KTM for the 1k. I would not" -- You're right, I agree with everything, almost. Only thing being that Honda/Precision worked hard on the 450 to be sure they could win the B1K. "this sounds like BMW all over again" -- Yeah, but KTM doesn't have us "washed up old slow guys" on their cool bike! "makes me wonder what exactly the Honda boys are running in that "450"" -- It really IS a 450cc. Precision Concepts will build a 99% replica for anyone.