I've looked up with some (semi) local made frame guards. They're plastic and cover ALL of the frame on both sides (including the subframe up until the number plate) except about 1-2" just below the tank. Look great.. work great (better than all alloy ones as the cover more/all of the frame) They're availale in black or white (or blue but I'd have to order 6000 pairs to get them in blue!)-Black looks really good CHEAP too! I'll get a pic up so you can all see what they look like ------------------ -- **Ride it like you Stole it!** Matt Porritt 99 YZ400F Vist the Rubber Chicken Racing Online Shop Discounts for ThumperTalk members.