Philipstjohn, BOLT Performance has a preconceived idea the "police officers" have our best interest in mind while they are performing the 'DUTY' they are being paid to perform. I for one will not "Challenge a Cop" and "Arguing with a cop" - not an option. I respect Law enforcement as in honoring the 'power behind the badge', but, not the "bad attitude" of most of the Law enforcement out there doing what they think is there 'DUTY'. I noticed that BOLT Performance thinks we (as in 'We the people') are always the ones provoking the LEO's or Cops, police, Law enforcement.......... just like he was trained to think? We must be the ones that are causing it.... because law enforcement is never wrong. There is overwhelming amount of legit stories just in my life of bad cops with bad attitudes. Being one that has ran a homeless home for transits (men living on the street) starting back in 1986, I have seen first hand how bad cops can be. I am not talking about me lipping off or anyone else, I am talking unprovoked bad cops BOLT Performance, you are acting like the majority of cops are not on some power trip, think they are always right, are in a good mood doing a good job till someone pisses them off.........this is just not true. Your preconceived idea of police officers because you were, 'blessed with a wonderful Dad', is nice but, the rest of us 'good' citizens live in a different world. I avoid bad people of any kind and if I think I can get away from them and not deal with them, I will be gone as fast as I can. That goes for cops also. Just one of the silly little stories of bad cops, with bad attitudes, that just happened lately. My wife driving in the town of Beaumont......she sees a police man stopped by a stop sign waiting for someone to role it. Seeing him, she makes a complete stop. Everything is right, seat belt on, newer van, looking good....... As she pulls away he fallows and pulls her over. Writes a ticket for no seat belt that she is still wearing, never took it off. She asks why, he said, 'you are wearing it wrong'. She had it around her breast, instead of cutting through them. .......... Yah, he saved the day from another harden criminal! and we gave to the city another $120 they needed. I can tell stories of drunks getting beaten, as I watched, me getting the smack down in my own home twice for nothing but, having homeless men here. (That I have picked up on the Law enforcements call) They subdue then ask what is going on......... I do not see 'protect and serve' without a doubt it is Harass and Collect! I really like this! Nice job of writing. Quote: Originally Posted by philipstjohn Who cares about your ticket anyway? its unrelated to the thread- The fact is people like you who run red lights cause many accidents-Cleonard was just out for a ride, not breaking any laws and was cited and expected to pay a fine for a law he did not break. Maybe you can get your Daddy to try to help you "get off" paying for a fine you should pay completely- it seems you were actually caught on tape breaking the law! And it now has something to do with your Daddy, and his occupation because you brought him up. Your Dad may be a "cool cop", but not all are like your dad. Most people know if you fight with the cops your going to lose. Most people who give a cop an attitude get a much greater negative attitude in return. But what happened to fighting for your rights? Well, lets see, we highlight or point out to a cop on the scene he does not know the law, and guess what, we now have an attitude torwards cops and we get arrested! When you have a bunch of young cops out there who do not know the law as clearly as they should, especially being responsibile in enforcing these laws, with a power trip attitude it makes it hard to respect Law Enforcement of any branch of government. Your acting like a young cop would now so to speak, if we do not agree with your ideals then we are going to get on your "ignore list". Its kinda like "argue with me and your going to jail " attitude cops have today. Being as pro active as law enforcement is today, it seems its getting to the point that we are now being treated as a whole guilty until proven innocent. American Freedom is a beautiful and unique lifestyle most in the world will never enjoy, and if it were not for a "few rebels" out there we may eventually see ourselves losing this freedom. Just be a rebel with a cause, and always fight for your rights. Maybe if we had more "rebels" fighting for our rights, cops would understand their role as Law Enforcement, not Law Harrassment!!!