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Mike,

I have owned a Scotts for several years and now have it on the 'Dale using BRP Pro-Taper damper ready bar clamps and the Scotts clamp on tower. The Scotts steel clamp on tower fits good, just looks real cheesy because the collar is thin and made to bend around and provide maximum contact area with the steering head. From past experiences with slipping mounts, I coated the contact surfaces with JB Weld before mounting it and have no problems at all. Its a very easy install as you don't need to remove the top triple clamp. Since I installed Pro-Tapers immediately when I got the bike, I got the BRP mounts as there was no Scotts kit at the time. I believe BRP actually makes the stuff for Scotts.

If I didn't have the Scotts already, I'd check out the GPR kit as well. The Scotts is nice because you can set the low speed damping light for no steering drag, and the high speed circuit still kicks in if you hit something.

Definately get one, it will save you eventually.

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So that people like YOU would be entertained and ask silly questions! What kind of name is s1031 anyhow??? Does DR mean Dizzy Rider? Jeeez ๐Ÿ™‚

Glen thanks for the reply, I gonna order one.

And s1031 you better not say a word to you know who, if you know whats good for ya!

Mike :D

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The s1031 stands for how many silvers I've drank of yours, and DR stands for drunk rider. And don't think that those few cold ones I drank at your house last night are going to cover your bill! You better go to the store tonight and stock up.

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s1031 when are you going to by a real bike? I'll probably get flamed from the other DR riders for that comment. See you Sunday morning between 5:45 and 6:00. Don't be too early!

gtms34

Thanks for watching my back Kevin. I'm looking forward to riding with you today.

I ordered a GPR Damper Thursday. I should have it on Monday per Randy at GPR. It sounds pretty slick. They are even giving me two sets of bar mounts in the kit and a life time warranty.

Mike ๐Ÿ™‚

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s1031, I think you already know my answer to that but here are the current rules, any questions:

THE MAN CODE

1. Thou shall not rent the movie "Chocolat"

2. Under no circumstances may 2 men share an umbrella.

3. Any man who brings a camera to a bachelor party may be legally killed and eaten by his fellow partygoers.

4. When you are queried by a buddy's wife, girlfriend, mother, father, priest, shrink, dentist, accountant, or dog walker, you need not and should not provide any useful information whatsoever as to his whereabouts. You are permitted to deny his very existence.

5. Unless he murdered someone in your immediate family, you must bail a friend out of jail within 12 hours.

6. You may exaggerate any anecdote told in a bar by 50 percent without recrimination; beyond that, anyone within earshot is allowed to call BULLSHIT. (Exception: When trying to pick up a girl, the allowable exaggeration rate rises to 400 percent)

7. If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off-limits forever.

8. The minimum amount of time you have to wait for another guy who's running late is 5 minutes. For a girl, you are required to wait 10 minutes for every point of hotness she scores on the classic 1-10 babe scale.

9. Complaining about the brand of free beer in a buddies refrigerator is forbidden. You may gripe if the temperature is unsuitable.

10. No man is ever required to buy a birthday present for another man. In fact, even remembering a friends birthday is strictly optional.

11. Agreeing to distract the ugly friend of a hot babe that your buddy is trying to hook up with is your legal duty. Should you get carried away with your good deed and end up having sex with the beast, your pal is forbidden to speak of it, even at your bachelor party.

12. Before dating a buddy's "ex", you are required to ask his permission and he in return is required to grant it.

13. Women who claim they "love to watch sports" must be treated as spies until they demonstrate knowledge of the game and the ability to pick a buffalo wing clean.

14. If a man's zipper is down, that's his problem, you didn't see nothin'.

15. The universal compensation for buddies who help you move is beer.

16. A man must never own a cat or like his girlfriend's cat.

17. When stumbling upon other guys watching a sports event, you may always ask the score of the game in progress, but you may never ask who's playing.

18. When your girlfriend/wife expresses a desire to fix her whiney friend up with your pal, you may give her the go-ahead only if you'll be able to warn your buddy and give him time to prepare excuses about joining the priesthood.

19. It is permissible to consume a fruity chick drink only when you're sunning on a tropical beach... and it's delivered by a topless supermodel... and it's free.

20. Unless you're in prison, never fight naked.

21. A man in the company of a hot, suggestively dressed woman must remain sober enough to fight.

22. If a buddy is outnumbered, out manned, or too drunk to fight, you must jump into the fight. Exception: If within the last 24 hours his actions have caused you to think, "What this guy needs is a good ass-whoopin", then you may sit back and enjoy.

23. Phrases that may NOT be uttered to another man while weight lifting:

"Yeah, baby, push it!"

"C'mon, give me one more! Harder!"

"Another set and we can hit the showers."

"Nice ass, are you a Sagittarius?"

24. Never hesitate to reach for the last beer or the last slice of pizza, but not both. That's just plain mean.

25. If you compliment a guy on his six-pack, you better be referring to his beer.

26. Never join your girlfriend/wife in dissing a buddy, except when she's withholding sex pending your response.

27. Never talk to a man in the bathroom unless you're on equal footing: either both urinating or both waiting in line. In all other situations, a nod is all the conversation you need.

28. If a buddy is already singing along to a song in the car, you may not.

Mike ๐Ÿ™‚

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I called WER today and was told they do indeed have a set up for the dale.

My son and I both have been using them for quite a while and believe in them. I'll be swapping the one on my KTM to the 440 after we get back from WV next week-end.

The wild thing to me was how the thing mounts to the frame on a Cannondale. You have to drill a few holes in the steering neck and rivet it in place. I'm still thinking about that... I guess it will work, but I have to admitt I am a little nervous about drilling into the aluminum frame.

We'll see!

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Wow, I do not like that idea for an aluminum frame. Anytime you drill you run the risk of setting up stress forces, not to mention the rivits. Scotts and GPR are simple clamp-ons. WER fender mounts are also prone to getting bent it you tag a tree.

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Yeah, I'm a little nervous about the drilling thing too. But we've used the WER units for years with no problems or failures what so ever. On my sons KX's and my KTM we had to drill the frames and run a long bolt through them to mount the clamping units. Wasn't a big deal at all...but they are steel frames.

I've always been a little hesitant about using the Scotts unit because of the mounting location. It just worries me being mounted right there on the top of the bars. Looks like a face plant waiting to happen. The extra adjustablity is probably nice, but in all honesty once we found the ideal setting on the WER units we don't touch them again, most everyone I know with a Scotts unit turns the slow speed circuit off for the type of riding we do, and like us, once that 'sweet spot' is found they don't fool with them much either. So for us, the WER unit seemed to fill our needs better.

But as I said before, the aluminum frame has me a little concerned about drilling holes. I'm not sure what to do.

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Have you guys really found the need for a steering dampener? My C440 certainly doesn't need one. This is probably the most stable bike at high speed that I have ever ridden. I forgot how stable the Cannondale was until taking the YZ 450 out on the long start straight after the log cabin table top at Glen Helen and it got some serious headshake going every time around. I even raised the forks in the triple clamps on the Dale and it's still perfectly stable...it just turns better now.

Joe ๐Ÿ™‚

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After two rides and a grand total of about...oooh, 50 or so miles, I can't honestly say the bike needs one. But I'm sure that I do.

High speed stabilty or head shake has never been the issue for me. Clipping trees with the sides of my bark busters, having the front wheel knocked one way or the other because of trail junk, and catching the back end as it comes around when the nut loose behind the handlebars gets a little carried away with the loud handle exiting flat slick corners most definately are issues that my W.E.R. unit has saved my very large a$$ on time and time again. It might sound crazy, but I don't consider them a performance part, they are a safety item.

Besides, I already have one and if I can make myself feel good about drilling that aluminum frame all it's gonna cost me is the price of a new bracket. If not, and the answer becomes buying another brand (and therefore a complete unit) I'll probably have to wait a while, but I will eventually have one. I feel that strongly about them.

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To me, its a safety device. Yes, they are very stable bikes, but if you clip a rock, unseen stump, or ricochet off a tree, the damper just slows things down enough for you to react. Even if it gives you a second to fall with some control, its better than nothing. When I broke my wrist I had not yet mounted the damper, and before I knew what I hit it was over.

Yes, most of the time the slow setting on the Scotts is set loose. Its nice to be able to crank it up when the trail dumps you out on a deep sand road. At least you have the choice, and with the WER, there is no high speed circuit.

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