called the chinese quad dealer and he's no help. tried to change the oil in my nephews quad his way by using the dipstick guess what it is overfilled. tried to get him to tell me the exact amount from the service manual and he can't- that seems pretty odd. my theory is that if you go by the dipstick that once you run it for a couple of minutes it will change, which it has. so what i was looking for was the exact amount so i could measure it out and then add it to the bike, so as to not be to low or to full. am i just crazy or do other people do it this way. from what i've researched at least one person has suggested the measuring way!!! this dealer kinda got a bad attitude when i told him his way was not correct -it was kind of funny that he got super po'd. he started telling me how he had be tearing motors apart since he was 10yrs old and how his family was in mechanics for 50 years and how he's raced offroad and on road all his life lol.