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Tomorrow 11:00 hours I pick up my bone-stock 30-miles-sum-total 8-month-old '07 CRF250X. It replaces a stock '06 CRF450X sold three days ago. I did brief pavement rides on both bikes Tuesday. Obviously the 450 accelerates harder. But even bone stock (Ramsey wrote stock '07s equal or approximate de-restricted earlier years) the 250 has surprisingly satisfying punch, even at 4200' elevation. My impression after admittedly limited exposure is that I prefer the 250's lower stress level, smoother/quieter motor & overall performance balance (even though I'm 6-3 & not a lightweight).

It's interesting (to me) that you often find threads such as, "Should I get Brand A or Brand B ?". You less frequently find threads such as, "Should I get Displacement A or Displacement B ?". IMO the answer to the later question is more valuable vs. the former.

I've read much here & at another dirt forum. It's noteworthy how many riders trade downward in displacement, expressing greater riding pleasure as a result & sometimes even adding they'll never trade back up again for larger displacement.

We often (especially Americans subected to marketing ploys) equate more w/ better. Obviously more is sometimes better, as in more suspension performance & more power. But it's important to keep the perspective of overall balance.

PS: a 450X SuperMoto would be the beez kneez for a pavement scorcher. My use is primarily trails/woods...the 450 would be easier to justify in desert/dunes venues.

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My riding buddy, said he would have purchased a 250 if he had ridden one prior to buying his wr450. He had been awy from dirt for many years. He was shocked when he rode my 250X the day I picked it up.

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I totally agree with you on the fact that more riders spend too much time looking @ brand vs brand. I have spent time on the 250x & the 450 in the woods. I have found that the 250 is better for me most of the time but it feels so great when I am climbing up slick nastey hill climbs on the 450. The 250 doesnt give me that enjoyment. On a second note the 250x is going to cost more in engine maintance.

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Does the crf450x not have the valve wear issues that the crf250x has?

They still have it, it’s just not as bad. It seams the smaller the displacement the more frequent the valve interval in the uni cam engine.

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...I have found that the 250 is better for me most of the time but it feels so great when I am climbing up slick nastey hill climbs on the 450. The 250 doesnt give me that enjoyment...

I have hundreds of thousands of pavement miles & the 250 is only my second real dirt bike (most prior dirt experience was riding the hills behind the San Francisco Zoo oh, about forty years ago...) I would imagine that the better & braver the dirt rider, & the gnarlier the hill, the better one might justify the 450...in other words: for bigger bear, bring bigger gun!

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They still have it, it’s just not as bad. It seams the smaller the displacement the more frequent the valve interval in the uni cam engine.

exactly :ride::thumbsup:

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exactly :ride::thumbsup:

This is true, mostly do to high reving when trying to make up for lack of power. Most people riding the 450 will lug the engine & short shift.:rant:

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ooo definately... the maneuverability and surprising power of the 250x is hard to find in a 450. Yeah there is more power, but most riders cannot handle that power. If u ask some of the greatest riders they will tell you that ya I ride 450's but i prefer 250's. The only time I would really advise a 450 over a 250 would be for the people who ride more in deserts or simply need that power for gnarly hill climbs and stuff. Other than that you can truly fly on a 250x

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I bought an 07 250X and a friend bought an 06 450X. While the punch on the 450 is great fun, for quick blasts it gets too tiring to ride fast on the tight single track we have here.

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did the same, each one has it's plus and minus's, it would be great if a manufacturer would find the middle ground.

It would be Nirvana:applause:

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Pretty hot rumor (one member swears it's true, another is just as sure it's false) at KTMTalk is that Orange will release a 350 MX bike shortly, followed later by an off-roadie. 6-speed wide-ratio & optional D/S version could result in a glut of used 250s/450s for sale, especially if it was fuel-injected...One poster says 50hp was the goal & its already been met in the prototype. Only about 2 lbs heavier than the 250. Yeow! :eek:

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:eek: Sign me up for the 350, it sounds like it is the same weight as the 250, as much power as the 450, and it probley shoots lighting bolts out the exhaust. All at the cost of the TTR 125!

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I've ridden my 250X back to back with a 450X on trails I frequent and I would never trade. The 250 is awesome on trails, super fun, very light - it puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. Welcome to the asylum!

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