BIg Steve.. it's springer First off nice smiley face in your title ha ha Anyway after reading all of this i think about 3 people actually know what they are talking about. Love the guys that post my bike has 1 million hours on my bike no problems. LIke this is a brag about how many hours your bike has and how slow you are so you can put another million hours on it. Anyway this whole situation sucks, I hope this or anything with bikes breaking never happens to you or me ever!!! I was set on getting 09 after my year off to relax but now i am freaked out about getting another bike because of YOU.. fix it cheap and trade it in and not on a 250F.. somebody please tell him 450's almost 99% of the time are more reliable. how's WILLLLL IEEE He still kicking people out of A- B practice for not keeping steady lap times... lol Then kicking us out of C class back to A-B for doing all the jumps. lets get 09 HOnda's Oh man... I've already made my decision... I am going to get a 250F. I may hang on to the 450 and take my time getting it fixed to save some money, but the next time I'm on the track I'll be YZ250F'n. No Honda's... Willie's gone. He came back and helped out for this last series we had, but I don't think he's going to come back to work practice days. He still doesn't have any shoes though.