The Pioneers of Off-Road in So Cal....Links Fixed

I posted this in another thread that most of you will never see and I thought some of you might be interested in the old timers, the pioneers that forged our beloved sport - and their baby - the world (in)famous GREENHORN ENDURO.

Keep in mind this started around WWII, and those guys were riding Flathead Indians and Harleys!!

I wonder what they would say about our land use issues today????

Anyway, check it out, you might find it interesting. I certainly did, and thought it worthy of re-posting here.

This is what I'm talkin' about!!!!!!

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bp

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The guys that ran and started this are the great forerunners of our sport. I have no doubts they are rolling over in their graves with all the closures. LOL One talks about how he used to always get stuck in the LA riverbed!! (That's all concrete now....)

What a bunch of great guys!!! Keep in mind they were doing this on 500+lb Flathead Indians and Harleys in the early days!!!!!!

This is all secondhand as I understand it and as I heard if from a long time Pasadena MC member, as it all got started before WWII and that's way before my time. In the early years, it started in Pasadena. After more and more intervention by the Sierra Club and others, the start moved into the Desert. I was run for over 30 years. Here's some info:

The Greenhorn was considered one of the toughest, if not the supreme challenge in off-road racing during its era. The 600-mile race ran over two days from Pasadena, California, to the Greenhorn Mountain range near Bakersfield and back. The course ran through steep, narrow and winding canyon trails, through rock-strewn desert trails and wide-open expanses of dry lakes. The temperature varied wildly between the desert floor and the high mountain passes.

http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/hofbiopage.asp?id=137

http://thebannerisup.district37ama.org/races/greenhorn-history.htm

Pics from the modern (1971) days (other side of the mtn starts):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcgreeneiv/2369753835/

http://flickr.com/photos/bcgreeneiv/2921095710/

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1065901767044187833AiZfKN

http://clandestineloner.com/1950s/1950s-GeorgeWalkerCollection.htm

http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/hofbiopage.asp?id=303

Map on one of the years:

http://wingnutsmotorcycleclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/greenhorn-enduro-race-course.html

http://www.techshareservices.net/dist37/horn2.htm

One of the classic Greenhorn bikes:

http://www.antiquemotorcycle.org/TheClub/museum/ex_mus/TheBikes/1938Ind_4/38ind_4.html

Nice.

Gas for you.

I love looking at those old photos... I wonder what future generations will thing when they see (OLD) pictures of us on our old fashioned 230lbs motorcycles.

Somewhere around 68 or 69 they ran it from Gorman to Ridgecrest and back.One of our club members, Frank Wheeler rode his Hodaka in it with a spare engine in his backpack.

Somewhere around 68 or 69 they ran it from Gorman to Ridgecrest and back.One of our club members, Frank Wheeler rode his Hodaka in it with a spare engine in his backpack.

LOL!! Great story!

Not all the pages open! But some did and it was great stuff. Thanks bp.

Not all the pages open! But some did and it was great stuff. Thanks bp.

Sorry about that. For some reason the links got broken when I copy pasted. They're fixed now though. Enjoy!!

bp

Thanks!

Somewhere around 68 or 69 they ran it from Gorman to Ridgecrest and back.One of our club members, Frank Wheeler rode his Hodaka in it with a spare engine in his backpack.

Cool stuff Jim :D

Wayne

Awesome stuff!!!

Awesome stuff!!!

Yeah, I think that in 68 they rode right thru your front yard!!! :worthy::D:ride:

Great post Bill!!!! :ride: :ride: :ride:

"he won the Greenhorn Enduro on his Indian Four. The 130-pound Bubeck won the grueling event aboard a 530-pound motorcycle!"

Oh my God!!!! :D:worthy::ride:

And I complain about the weight of my DR-Z :ride:

Thanks much for posting that!

Great post Bill!!!! :ride: :ride: :ride:

"he won the Greenhorn Enduro on his Indian Four. The 130-pound Bubeck won the grueling event aboard a 530-pound motorcycle!"

Oh my God!!!! :D:worthy::ride:

And I complain about the weight of my DR-Z :ride:

Yeah, kind of puts things into perspective doesn't it! :ride: :ride: Can you imagine a motorcycle that weighs 4+X's what you do?!?!?!?

Yeah, I think that in 68 they rode right thru your front yard!!! :worthy::D:ride:

Damn I just looked at the map for 69' the course did go right by my place.

I wish I could turn the clock back!!!

I spent a good part of my youth hauling oak out of the Greenhorn MTNS with my family.. There is some rough stuff up in them hills :ride:

Thanks for fixing the threads Bill. Really cool stuff in them pages.

Gary

Good stuff!!! Great read Bill.

Occationally in D36 there will be an enduro that will challenge the many with endurance and it never fails that many will bitch about the extreme of the event (such as the Quicksilver). If only they could all read this post they then may realize what an "Enduro" really is.

I rode the 1968 (It had to be 1968 after rethinking the timeline and the 1967 Greenhorn began in Gorman not Pearblossom) Greenhorn Enduro with Charlie Curnutt and his Dad, Chuck Curnutt, of Curnutt Shocks fame. It started/finished in Pearblossom and overnighted at the Inyokern Airport near Ridgecrest.

I rode a 1964 Triumph 500cc desert sled and Charlie had a 250 Husky. Charlie's dad dropped out on Saturday and I believe that there were only about 60 finishers for the 500 mile event. The averages were so high for the terrain that it was basically a 500 mile hare and hound except for possibly the really fast experts.

After we finished this event, Charlie and I felt pretty good about the desert and began racing District 37 just about every weekend.

I rode the Greenhorn two or three additional years and it was not as difficult as the 1968 one.

Later in 1968, I purchased a new 1968 (It had to be a 1968, not a 1967, after rethinking the timeline) Husky 360 from Tracy's Motorcycles in Burbank. $1,169 OTD. I remember because I carried 12 one hundred dollar bills in my jeans to school so that I could pick the bike up after school. That was a lot of cash in those days.

Now, at age 58, I ride a 100 - 120 mile day in the desert with my 24 year old son and I am whipped. I could never make a two day 500 mile event.

Also, these were the days when races were held anywhere, even starting at Dove Springs. We never imagined what would occur.

Here is a couple of old photos, circa 1968, of me on the old Husky, in Sunland Shamrock's attire. The one is on an unknown enduro, not the Greenhorn, I don't believe, and the other at a jump at a grand prix or motocross.

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Bob

Nice story & pics bob, THANKS!!!:D:worthy::ride:

Thanks for the memories, Bill.

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