At the Washougal National I saw the new 450 under a display tent. NO wr450 onsite, although they did have brochures and of course no weight is listed. Although I wont be buying a yz, I was impressed on how narrow it looked, especially up near the tank. And the swing arm looked much smaller too. The new WR450 should be a good looking bike too. Cant wait to find out the real scoop.