i have a friend that is going to try for loretta's this year since they brought the fifty plus class back. he has the opertuninty to get a left over 08 yzf450 for 4200.00 or a 09 honda at cost or a little more. he wont tell me what that is. i'm a honda guy but i'm am having a hard time telling him that a new honda is worth 3 or 4 thousand dollars more. the guy gets pretty competitive, he won red bud back in 1980. i guess what i'm asking is if you put say 3 thousand dollars in a new yzf 08 model would the honda still be a more competitive bike. he wont have money to put in the honda if he gets that one. thanks for your honest opinion.