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Hey ladies

So I heard something disturbing last night. I was told that the latest threat to our sport is to remove the production of small bikes and that children would no longer be allowed to ride dirtbikes. The reason is because of the lead content found in/on the small dirtbikes. I know this seems unreasonable and ludicrous, but we've all seen crazy bills pass in CA, so I wouldn't put it pass the environmental community. I once interviewed the top dog from the Sierra Club for an article I was writing at the time. When I asked him where he would be okay with seeing kids ride dirtbikes, he told me the only place he'd be okay with it was in the meridans between the highways. He was dead serious. The quote made the article, but his sentiment still haunts me.

Anyone hear about this lead thing and the small bikes our kids learn on?

Being pregnant with my first right now, do I need to buy a mini Husky right now and save it in the garage for my kid? If anyone knows about this, let's get a thread going-seems like something worth fighting for. Thanks-

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Yep, here it is from the AP: The enviro agenda keeps moving forward...

HELENA, Mont. (AP) — A new national limit on lead in children's products — which has toy makers scrambling for new testing methods and retailers for storage space for inventory they're not sure they can sell — also is forcing motorcycle dealers to pull dirt bikes off showroom floors.

It became illegal Tuesday to sell off-road machines geared for children younger than 12 because parts in them contain lead at levels greater than 600 parts per million. Most motor vehicles have such parts.

"I think they took this law a little too far," said Margie Hicklin-Krsul, the owner of Redline Sports, a sports bike dealership in Butte. "I've never had anyone come in and say, 'My child keeps putting parts of his motorcycle into his mouth.'"

About 100,000 of the bikes — popular for trails, zipping around backyards and racing on motocross tracks — sold last year for $1,500 or more, according to industry estimates. The ban, not yet permanent, is a blow to motocross racers of any age who want a small bike and now won't be able to get new equipment or repair what they have.

Dealerships — where sales already were sputtering due to the recession — received notices over the last month that they must pull the bikes off showroom floors. Industry leaders say some 13,000 dealers are now stuck with $100 million worth of inventory that may end up worthless.

Congress tightened lead limits on children's products last summer after a series of discoveries of dangerous lead levels in toys, and the rules took partial effect last week when a judge nixed a 12-month reprieve while the Consumer Products Safety Commission finalizes them.

The law won't be enforced for a year, but retailers can no longer sell products that contain materials in question. And they may find once the rules are clarified that the inventory now filling their storage rooms is worthless.

Congress is getting an earful. U.S. Rep. Danny Rehberg, R-Mont., fielding angry phone calls over the issue, blamed "government bureaucrats" for bungling implementation of the original law.

Makers of dirt bikes and motocross equipment are seeking an exemption for their products, but the federal consumer agency is still reviewing the request.

"We're hoping that they see their way to a difference between a children's necklace and a motor part that has very little chance of being ingested by a child," said Tim Patnode, spokesman for American Honda.

Dealers worry the ban will have the perverse effect of pushing kids onto larger, more powerful models if the ones running with engine displacement between 50 cubic centimeters and 100 are no longer available. They also say the ban will discourage families from introducing young riders to the sport.

"Every one of my nieces and nephews has learned to ride on 50s and then I've worked them up to the bigger bikes," said Hicklin-Krsul, the Butte dealer.

The ban applies to used and new small off-road machines — and the parts to service them. Even the agency administering the ban understands it might be counterproductive.

"It is critically important to the Consumer Product Safety Commission that youth models be available because we are the federal agency that has investigated numerous deaths involving young riders who jumped on to adult-size ATVs," said Scott Wolfson, spokesman for the commission.

But he said the agency is reviewing thousands of products to decide if they meet the new lead standards.

Renton Motorcycle Co. outside Seattle moved 169 dirt bikes and ATVs off its sales floor last Tuesday. After selling about 600 starter bikes and ATVs in 2008, the shop now may not be able to service them or accept them in trade for a bigger bike, said sales manager Mike Dunaway.

"If someone has a little 50 and their son's now grown up, how can we move them up to the next model?" Dunaway asked.

Dealers have been warned that a single violation of the law carries a fine of $1,825 and penalties could run to $1.8 million with repeated offenses.

For the time being, most manufacturers are offering to cover the cost dealers face each month for the stock they are holding in hopes the ban will be lifted.

"We're going to park them in the back room and wait for the government to decide what to do," said Wayne Gabbert, owner of Outdoor Motor Sports Inc. in Helena. "It's another one of these good-government deals where they try to save everybody."

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Oh this has been going on for awhile now. This is just one of many


As of Feb 10th 2009 all parts and bikes have been pulled. :)

If your bike has a part that it's part # crosses with the small bike parts that have been pulled well your SOL. As they have pulled that as well.

So yes we know and have been signing petitions and sending letters:thumbsup:

Going to a protest in Olympia WA tomorrow over this issue

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Yeeh - lots of topics circulating about this but I only foudn out about a week or two ago and found not a lot of people had been made aware either.

I just send off a huge stack of letters from each my hubby and I - probably going to spend a few more hours sending my letters to who ever else I can. This ban also affects snowmobiles - my children have a PW50 and XC120 snowmobile, my oldest is too little for a 100 and my youngest isnt even old enough to enjoy the little machines yet. I'm just so astonished at this law as many are and it could take awhile to sort this idiotic mess out! Very disturbing! It's hard enough fighting for our rights to ride on public lands... now we're fighting for our childrens right to ride PERIOD!

What will they think of next?

After sending in protest letters, I've heard some people getting responses back from their senators and represnatives stating that "this is for the better of our children". ***! These people are so out of touch with our public's true wellfare or are just simply corrupt and have alternative motives. More than likely, it's both scenarios.

Debi - let us know how the protest goes.

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Yeah, I don't get it. Why isn't this all over the news? Sure, I can google it and get some info, but I'm surprised its not more of a big deal.

I'd love to know how any of the protests go. It is such a huge hit. Just as we're getting more Wilderness Bills approved. Sickening really. Great to hear about the letter campaigns. I'm on it too! I'm surprised this subject isn't on my AM talkshows. Guess, I should call in!

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The momentum is gathering - but too slowly I think. It should be a deafening roar by now. I think unless you follow TT’s battle front page you won’t know about it. Can’t figure out why it isn’t pasted across the front page of everything having anything to do with motorcycles.

I have been writing - and writing - local news, politicians, anybody I can think of.

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Huskygirl, here's your chance! For those of us that don't need to buy a youth bike, let's try and stop by Malcolm Smith's shop as a show of support.

Protest Event Fact Sheet


Malcolm Smith


Kids Love 2 Ride Protest


Thursday, March 19, 2009, 6:00am PST


Malcolm Smith Motorsports

7599 Indiana Avenue, Riverside, CA 92504



In defiance of the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 which prohibits the sale of youth motorcycles and ATVs deemed unhealthy for children under 12 due to suspected high-levels of lead content, motorcycle dealer Malcolm Smith will sell these banned vehicles as a sign of protest. As a sign of support, a group of small business people and high-profile motorcycle industry celebrities, including racers Jeff Ward and Jeremy McGrath, Glen Helen Raceway owner Bud Feldkamp, and motorsport design guru Troy Lee have all agreed to be on hand to purchase banned units for use by their own children and grandchildren.

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Folks I don't have a good feeling about this one. I have been in contact with my Rep and my Senators and one of my Senators I know from previous working for his business. Also on phone with CPSC nobody really cares about this issue in DC. They don't feel any political heat to take the dirt bike side. With a media portraying this lead ruling as protecting children and the current administartion in the White House looking at ORV's as destroying the enviorment. I don't think we are going to have this ban modified. I hope I'm wrong but I'm feeling the manufactures are going to have to comply with the ruling if they want to sell minis here anymore.

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