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I posted this in the pics forum, but thought not all make it up there, so I thought I would share here as well. I just recieved my super thick grippy graphics from Decal works (didnt know they existed until I ordered them up). They say they ship within 48 hrs, but two weeks later they called saying they were gonna make them....anyways, I was very impressed when they showed up! (its my service honda 150rb frame with a 250f motor, hence the mini monster logo, thought it fit...haha) NewHondaGraphics3-13-09003.jpgNewHondaGraphics3-13-09001.jpg

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I posted this in the pics forum, but thought not all make it up there, so I thought I would share here as well. I just recieved my super thick grippy graphics from Decal works (didnt know they existed until I ordered them up). They say they ship within 48 hrs, but two weeks later they called saying they were gonna make them....anyways, I was very impressed when they showed up! (its my service honda 150rb frame with a 250f motor, hence the mini monster logo, thought it fit...haha) NewHondaGraphics3-13-09003.jpgNewHondaGraphics3-13-09001.jpg

you have such a nice bike.. so i hate you !:) lol you should get the bbr frame for it if you have enough money for a service Honda

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Well, it was either eye candy or go fast (I think they are about the same price to buy from either service honda or BBR). I went with the go fast. Now Im broke eating hotdogs and mac and cheese.

Tom

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Nice ride for sure...:):banghead:

How much does something like that.. set a guy back...???? If you don't mind..:banghead:

What are the differences from standard 150R Expert....besides motor size.??

Nick

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Well, it was either eye candy or go fast (I think they are about the same price to buy from either service honda or BBR). I went with the go fast. Now Im broke eating hotdogs and mac and cheese.

Tom

hot dogs and mac and cheese aren't that bad especially with ketchup even on mac and cheese:goofy:

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Hey Guy

Nice bike :)

Why don't you do a write up on the Service Honda bike??

There is NO information AT ALL ANYWHERE on it???

I was always considering buying one, but always wondered (maybe you can answer them)

1. How is the bikes power/torque compared to wheelbase?? In other words, is it hard to keep the front wheel on the ground or is it "wheelie friendly".

2. What has been done to the engine to compensate to the bike (ie flywheel weight, type of pipe (custom??), gearing, etc.)

3. Is there now a 520 chain/sprocket/hub to compensate for the additional power from the engine??

4. How does it feel overall compared to the 150R?

If you could do any sort of write up, there would be a LOT of interested people in this, and you'll get gas from me for sure :banghead: :banghead: :foul::p

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Ok, here goes the mini review....In stock trim, the bike is WAY to wheelie friendly. Sad part is...like alot of the old 500 guys, its so wheelie friendly, having a somewhat used tire helps the bike slide at least a little, and not just try to loop out. The way I corrected this was by extending the stock swing arm by 2". Now that the swingarm is longer, the bike handles WAY better in a straight line as well as corners...time for new tires now. The overall weight increase to the bike is 7-8lbs over a stock 150RB. In an attempt to tame the curve of the 250f motor, I installed a 9oz flywheel weight. This helped out a ton! A must in my opinion right off the bat is to install an oversized braking kit on the front....she likes to get going, but stopping is a little weak, it needed more brakes. A larger disc corrected that problem. Service honda does things like add an additional bearing in the swingarm to help the bike compensate for the additional weight. The header is a stock 250f header that feeds into the stock 150r muffler (I was told that the volume of a 150r compared to the 250f was about the same) and yes, this is the way the bike comes from service honda. the bike also uses the stock 150r radiators and comes from service honda with engine ice installed. So far I have about 25hrs on the bike and it has never overheated. I believe putting the 250f motor into a lighter bike with smaller wheels really relieves alot of the stress to the motor. The valves are still in spec and have not moved. The welds from service honda are HORRIBLE. Ill be stripping the bike to the frame and cleaning it up shortly. its funny, the motor mounts are beautifly machined aluminum, while they use a crappy bolt globbed onto the side of the chassis to install the chain roller (and its not even straight!). I can honestly say this is the first bike that I didnt do ANYTHING to the motor to increase power, flywheel weight and a reusable oil filter, thats about it. The bike comes with a 520 chain kit already installed (I believe they are custom made from sprocket specialists). The bike comes with the standard 150r shock, and service honda sets up the forks for your riding ability and weight (they change the spring rates, but dont revalve....it was close...) I put the Fox poidium shock on the bike valved and sprung for my weight and Id say the bike is nicely ballanced and "plush". I ride motocross 90% of the time as a decent intermediate and this little guy scoots me along just fine. But it is still not a big bike. With all the supsension upgrades I have performed, nothing can compensate for larger wheels. Im 5-9ish, so to make the cockpit more friendly, I lowered the footpegs by two inches, changed the upper triple to an adjustable one to get the bars farther forward, taller bars and installed a taller seat. Its feels pretty close to my big bike now. Im sorry, but I cant compare it to any "standard" 150rs because I have never ridden one. Overall I have around 10k into the bike. If your willing to work with the bike, its potential is awesome, but for me, in stock form, its a little pricey for what you get. Hope this helps!

Tom

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Excellent review info ...

I was considering a Service Honda Junior X for my wife this year, but could not find anybody who had one to ask opinions on ... great info!! I was going to get SH to put the 250X engine in the frame, but they indicated I would need to lose the battery (otherwise I would have to use the CR85 frame).

So based on what you see (poor welds aside) do you think it would be easier to buy a 250R(X) engine and mount it yourself?? Any "proprietary" stuff that Service Honda seems to do (ie alignment of chainline).

I like the idea but would REALLY need to calm down the delivery, which might mean the longer swingarm as well. Looks like you've got a good gouge in the swingarm already ... ouch!! Love what you did to it though. Nice mods ... you obviously know what your doing :)

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what looks like a gouge is where I extended the swing arm. That is a cross cut weld to give it more strength. I took 2 identical swingarms and cut them at angles, then mated them together, the degree of cut gives much better strength then cutting straight down (it is also braced along the bottom as well) The only major thing I see with the conversion is that the front of the chassis has an "S" in it to get the engine in correct alignment yet still have the room needed. And the airbox was hand made from aluminum....very nice, but Im not sure if its needed. P.S. if your gonna give it a try, Ill have my camera ready for any pics of my bike that may help with your install. Ill post a pic of the front of the frame in a second...

Tom

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From the front ServiceHondaApr2208019.jpg And its not the actuall airbox, its the intake boot for the fcr thats aluminum. ServiceHondaApr2208020.jpg

Tom

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I dont have cable and I usually torrent, but nobody has posted the torrent yet.....I know....Im lame.... :banghead: I didnt think anybody was really gonna read the thread in the amount of time it took for me to upload the new pics.... Way to keep me on my toes though! :)

Tom

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Ok, here goes the mini review....In stock trim, the bike is WAY to wheelie friendly. Sad part is...like alot of the old 500 guys, its so wheelie friendly, having a somewhat used tire helps the bike slide at least a little, and not just try to loop out. The way I corrected this was by extending the stock swing arm by 2". Now that the swingarm is longer, the bike handles WAY better in a straight line as well as corners...time for new tires now. The overall weight increase to the bike is 7-8lbs over a stock 150RB. In an attempt to tame the curve of the 250f motor, I installed a 9oz flywheel weight. This helped out a ton! A must in my opinion right off the bat is to install an oversized braking kit on the front....she likes to get going, but stopping is a little weak, it needed more brakes. A larger disc corrected that problem. Service honda does things like add an additional bearing in the swingarm to help the bike compensate for the additional weight. The header is a stock 250f header that feeds into the stock 150r muffler (I was told that the volume of a 150r compared to the 250f was about the same) and yes, this is the way the bike comes from service honda. the bike also uses the stock 150r radiators and comes from service honda with engine ice installed. So far I have about 25hrs on the bike and it has never overheated. I believe putting the 250f motor into a lighter bike with smaller wheels really relieves alot of the stress to the motor. The valves are still in spec and have not moved. The welds from service honda are HORRIBLE. Ill be stripping the bike to the frame and cleaning it up shortly. its funny, the motor mounts are beautifly machined aluminum, while they use a crappy bolt globbed onto the side of the chassis to install the chain roller (and its not even straight!). I can honestly say this is the first bike that I didnt do ANYTHING to the motor to increase power, flywheel weight and a reusable oil filter, thats about it. The bike comes with a 520 chain kit already installed (I believe they are custom made from sprocket specialists). The bike comes with the standard 150r shock, and service honda sets up the forks for your riding ability and weight (they change the spring rates, but dont revalve....it was close...) I put the Fox poidium shock on the bike valved and sprung for my weight and Id say the bike is nicely ballanced and "plush". I ride motocross 90% of the time as a decent intermediate and this little guy scoots me along just fine. But it is still not a big bike. With all the supsension upgrades I have performed, nothing can compensate for larger wheels. Im 5-9ish, so to make the cockpit more friendly, I lowered the footpegs by two inches, changed the upper triple to an adjustable one to get the bars farther forward, taller bars and installed a taller seat. Its feels pretty close to my big bike now. Im sorry, but I cant compare it to any "standard" 150rs because I have never ridden one. Overall I have around 10k into the bike. If your willing to work with the bike, its potential is awesome, but for me, in stock form, its a little pricey for what you get. Hope this helps!

Tom

awsome review, btw does the motor come with the bigger 250r carb? and how about computer, do they keep the 150r's comp or trade it with the 250R's? thanks Tom!

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Its the entire 250 setup. Carb, electronics, everything, the only thing not swapped for the motor is the radiators. But like I said, it came with engine Ice in it and after 25hrs of moto I still havent gotten it hot or overheated it. Maybe cruising on a tight trail would get it to pop, but I dont do that.

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Nice bike!

I like the 150R for the track, but I'd love to haev one of the Jr X's for the desert!

Thanks for the great review!

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