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yup, it's like kissing your sister...

...just does nothing for you:confused:

You guys ever see "Joe Dirt"??

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yeah, but that was a one-way pleasure what i've heard so far, ie just you liked it :lol::snore:

Kinda like you Euro`s and zee "Gummi Frau", no Frez??:doh:

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Sure........I'll do my best to stay objective......... I don't like the name of they guy who puts the clutches in the red bikes so the honda's will handle terribly and make very little power. I once knew a guy who knew a guy who worked at a kawasaki dealership and his sister was really ugly so stay away from the green bikes as well. I heard that suzuki was doing some sort of business with china so therefore I assume that all the parts on the new RMZ's will be made there and come with a free trial account to the world of warcraft so if you don't mind yellow than its a good move. Apparently yamaha has been working on a direct injected 6 stroke that makes more power than a 4 stroke at 9 times the displacement. The AMA has yet to get back to them with a ruling. KTM still refuses to run a linkage or a conventional fender, I assume that they're engineers just aren't that good with angles. If your going to be spending money this season on a new bike than I would probably suggest a husky, Not because I believe they're superior but because I think I read somewhere they also come with a free BMW thrown in or something like that....................Hey, It's still better than transworlds!!

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Hey Guys, what about this Amsoil fork and shock fluid? Anyone tried this stuff? It`s full synthetic and not to expensive like RaceTech full synthetic.

What is the longest lasting fluid is what I want to know, that`s all.

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Just thought I would give a little bit of an update. Dave's oil arrived on monday, or 5 buisness days after I ordered it. I than immediately began to assemble the rear shock taking the time to ensure that no air remained within it. During the process however I broke the o-ring the the bottom part of the compression assembly. Dave is sending me a new one in the mail free of charge as this isn't a part you can get from your local Yamaha dealer. I'm still waiting on the tool to separate the inner chamber which I ordered off Ebay last week so it will be a few days before i get the forks together as well. Dave also sent me a new product he is testing called a "Clover" Mod for the forks. It is basically a clover shaped shim that sits over the compression ports at the top of the stem. This supposedly prevents cavitation or air bubbles being created while the piston moves up and down. I can see how this would work as my only knowledge of cavitation is that of navy submarines trying to prevent cavitation in order to stay silent and the shim sort of resembles that. Anyways this is my update on what I'm hoping is a very informative review and I hope to post more soon.

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Sure........I'll do my best to stay objective......... I don't like the name of they guy who puts the clutches in the red bikes so the honda's will handle terribly and make very little power. I once knew a guy who knew a guy who worked at a kawasaki dealership and his sister was really ugly so stay away from the green bikes as well. I heard that suzuki was doing some sort of business with china so therefore I assume that all the parts on the new RMZ's will be made there and come with a free trial account to the world of warcraft so if you don't mind yellow than its a good move. Apparently yamaha has been working on a direct injected 6 stroke that makes more power than a 4 stroke at 9 times the displacement. The AMA has yet to get back to them with a ruling. KTM still refuses to run a linkage or a conventional fender, I assume that they're engineers just aren't that good with angles. If your going to be spending money this season on a new bike than I would probably suggest a husky, Not because I believe they're superior but because I think I read somewhere they also come with a free BMW thrown in or something like that....................Hey, It's still better than transworlds!!

I thought they were throwing in a new leak injector.

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The new leak jet injector is purely speculation at this point, Do you really want to be the one to release this unconfirmed information to the public?

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Hey Guys, what about this Amsoil fork and shock fluid? Anyone tried this stuff? It`s full synthetic and not to expensive like RaceTech full synthetic.

What is the longest lasting fluid is what I want to know, that`s all.

Well on paper, Dave's oil is supposed to last anywhere from 100 to 280 hours, Without the polymers and fillers in it there is nothing really to break down.

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Well on paper, Dave's oil is supposed to last anywhere from 100 to 280 hours, Without the polymers and fillers in it there is nothing really to break down.

Makes sense:ride: 100 hours!! Awesome:thumbsup:

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conductivity would be a good measurment to use, any flaking/metal particles inside the fork would show on that measurement i would think, conductivity is the inverse of resistance.

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Well, I'm thoroughly delighted with Dave's fluid so far. Got everything back together last night and hit the track today. A few laps of adjusting the clickers and it is the best that the front has ever felt. There is NO hard jarring on bumps. Came up short on a double and the front just sucked it up. And I love it that the front finally sticks good in the corners. I know I still have more work to do on the clickers, but it feels like a totally different bike. I can't wait to get out into some open desert. Thank you Dave!!

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Alright guys, I thought I would give a little update on my long overdue review of dave's oil. So after receiving the oil and beginning to re-assemble everything I ran into 2 snags, I snapped the o-ring at the bottom of the compression assembly(The exact one dave warns against snapping) and I also snapped of the stem off of the IC Piston seal assembly while trying to install the clover shim that dave gave me to test. I was at first really worried about how hard it would be to get such a small KYB part but dave was right there with what i needed in around 6 business days for a whopping 2.92$. A lot better than a whole 300$ inner chamber assembly. So I finally got everything back together today,Charged my shock with 145 PSI of nitrogen, Got the other clover shim on and put the forks back together.Assembled the rest of my bike, Started it up and let it warm up a bit when i noticed a small dripping coming from below my skidplate. I took a closer look and noticed a small oil leak from one of the hoses running to the oil pan. It was only a small leak and I was really looking forward to trying out the new suspension so i went for a small 5 minute ride through the trails behind my house. The first thing that stuck out for me was how plush it was over soft stuff now, I mean really plush. You can sit down and still not feel anything. The second thing I noticed however, Was how much stiffer it was over the big stuff. The suspension also felt a little stiffer off the stand as well. I didn't even get a chance to re-check my sag or tire pressure. I just let it warm up and took off for a small ride. Dave says that you won't really notice anything until the suspension warms up a bit and it didn't get a chance to today so I guess the review will be put into further suspension until I can get the o-ring I need for the oil leak from my local yamaha dealer which will most likely be on monday. Well Thanks again for the patience, I will do a full review of everything on monday for those who are interested but until than I guess i'm just going to have to wait in anticipation for that my parts to come in.

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Alright guys, I thought I would give a little update on my long overdue review of dave's oil. So after receiving the oil and beginning to re-assemble everything I ran into 2 snags, I snapped the o-ring at the bottom of the compression assembly(The exact one dave warns against snapping) and I also snapped of the stem off of the IC Piston seal assembly while trying to install the clover shim that dave gave me to test. I was at first really worried about how hard it would be to get such a small KYB part but dave was right there with what i needed in around 6 business days for a whopping 2.92$. A lot better than a whole 300$ inner chamber assembly. So I finally got everything back together today,Charged my shock with 145 PSI of nitrogen, Got the other clover shim on and put the forks back together.Assembled the rest of my bike, Started it up and let it warm up a bit when i noticed a small dripping coming from below my skidplate. I took a closer look and noticed a small oil leak from one of the hoses running to the oil pan. It was only a small leak and I was really looking forward to trying out the new suspension so i went for a small 5 minute ride through the trails behind my house. The first thing that stuck out for me was how plush it was over soft stuff now, I mean really plush. You can sit down and still not feel anything. The second thing I noticed however, Was how much stiffer it was over the big stuff. The suspension also felt a little stiffer off the stand as well. I didn't even get a chance to re-check my sag or tire pressure. I just let it warm up and took off for a small ride. Dave says that you won't really notice anything until the suspension warms up a bit and it didn't get a chance to today so I guess the review will be put into further suspension until I can get the o-ring I need for the oil leak from my local yamaha dealer which will most likely be on monday. Well Thanks again for the patience, I will do a full review of everything on monday for those who are interested but until than I guess i'm just going to have to wait in anticipation for that my parts to come in.

We are all anxiously awaiting your final review. :thumbsup:

I may take the day off work.

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Well, I'm thoroughly delighted with Dave's fluid so far. Got everything back together last night and hit the track today. A few laps of adjusting the clickers and it is the best that the front has ever felt. There is NO hard jarring on bumps. Came up short on a double and the front just sucked it up. And I love it that the front finally sticks good in the corners. I know I still have more work to do on the clickers, but it feels like a totally different bike. I can't wait to get out into some open desert. Thank you Dave!!

Cool…thanks!

Alright guys, I thought I would give a little update on my long overdue review of dave's oil. So after receiving the oil and beginning to re-assemble everything I ran into 2 snags, I snapped the o-ring at the bottom of the compression assembly(The exact one dave warns against snapping) and I also snapped of the stem off of the IC Piston seal assembly while trying to install the clover shim that dave gave me to test. I was at first really worried about how hard it would be to get such a small KYB part but dave was right there with what i needed in around 6 business days for a whopping 2.92$. A lot better than a whole 300$ inner chamber assembly. So I finally got everything back together today,Charged my shock with 145 PSI of nitrogen, Got the other clover shim on and put the forks back together.Assembled the rest of my bike, Started it up and let it warm up a bit when i noticed a small dripping coming from below my skidplate. I took a closer look and noticed a small oil leak from one of the hoses running to the oil pan. It was only a small leak and I was really looking forward to trying out the new suspension so i went for a small 5 minute ride through the trails behind my house. The first thing that stuck out for me was how plush it was over soft stuff now, I mean really plush. You can sit down and still not feel anything. The second thing I noticed however, Was how much stiffer it was over the big stuff. The suspension also felt a little stiffer off the stand as well. I didn't even get a chance to re-check my sag or tire pressure. I just let it warm up and took off for a small ride. Dave says that you won't really notice anything until the suspension warms up a bit and it didn't get a chance to today so I guess the review will be put into further suspension until I can get the o-ring I need for the oil leak from my local yamaha dealer which will most likely be on monday. Well Thanks again for the patience, I will do a full review of everything on monday for those who are interested but until than I guess i'm just going to have to wait in anticipation for that my parts to come in.

Geez…after all this I’m hoping for a good conclusion.

We are all anxiously awaiting your final review. :thumbsup:

I may take the day off work.

I’ll be the first to admit that results will vary. For some riders it’s a life saver. In general, but not always, the bigger the problem the more dramatic the results.

Based on what I have read from Rick’s postings, I think he’s an ideal candidate. But I can also understand his skepticism. Perhaps I would feel the same way if I were in his shoes. One small step at time.

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Dave, Is what I'm feeling normal for suspension that hasn't been fully warmed up. I guess I'm still a little worried that I made a mistake on assembly. It feels amazing through the small stuff, Stutter bumps and slightly whooped out trails but it's really rough on the few downhill braking bumps I have near my house.

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Dave, Is what I'm feeling normal for suspension that hasn't been fully warmed up. I guess I'm still a little worried that I made a mistake on assembly. It feels amazing through the small stuff, Stutter bumps and slightly whooped out trails but it's really rough on the few downhill braking bumps I have near my house.

If anything, the complaint should be the other way around - you should feel the smaller stuff more, and the bigger stuff less. :thumbsup:

Two questions.

1. What level did you set the lower oil to?

2. Are you sure that the clover shim is in the right postion, and was the piston locked onto to stem before you reassembled the fork? If the piston is not locked on the stem, it can spin when you go to install it, and this will obviously throw-off how the fluid can and cannot flow via the clover shim plate.

I guess it may be worth it to also confirm where you have your settings, rebound and compression.

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