gonna be darn close to msrp as nobody is gonna get a lot of them this year. my dealership is only getting 2. and that is after they take 3-4 '09s as well. and they are only getting 3 250f's but have to take 4 '09s also. only getting 1 yz125 and no yz250's, yet they sold a lot of the pingers this year. not gonna be easy. plan on the full meal deal. Where you at in Texas? I may be looking for an 09 and my dealer is sold out... Maybe he will be forced to get more, but when I talked to him on release day, he said no more 09's for him, and he just got back from a dealer meeting.