I know this has been bantered about in the past, but I was just wanting to get some good input from those who have ridden both in tight woods conditions. Having owned several KTM 2-strokes, including (2) 200exc's, a 250 mxc, and a Gasgas EC250, I have to say that I quite enjoy the big thumper in the woods. IMHO, I feel much busier on the 2-strokes and I have to admit that even though I have ridden 2-strokes almost exclusively for several years, I am still not that great at brake/clutch, especially when cornering. I spend less time shifting and braking on the 4-stroke and spend more time concentrating on the trail itself. I also like the ability to lug up tough hills and over obstacles with the thumper. Now, it does not slice and dice like the 2-stokes through the trees, but I think it makes up for things in other places. Maybe it just comes down to rider style. Any thoughts. BTW, I currently own a '06 WR450 and a '03 Gasgas EC250.