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Whats a good company for Suspension Work for my new 09 KTM 400. I ve always ran ProCircuit on my Jap bikes, but not too sure about sending my WP stuff there. WHo specializes in WP service??

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Both MX-Tech and MX1 comes to mind. Forget the PC. And FC,Race Tech, Enzo etc. Jap specialists...

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Hey ville,

Is race-tech really not that good? I got a friend who is selling me his forks and shock that have gold valves, springs and different oil in the forks, and the bladder kit, different needle and spring for the shock off an 07. He wants 1000 bucks and the forks and shock off my bike. Is it worth it? Keep in mind that i don't have to do any of the work or shipping. It's just the cost of parts for his new '09.

P.S. sorry to hijack, but i don't think it warrants a whole different thread.

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I have had RT Sweden ( it´s an approwed RT franchise and use all RT parts & specs) revalve my suspension before and it was worse than stock. After they had redone it the third time i finally gave up and went with another tuner. Either RT U.S nor any of their franchises will ever butcher my suspension again. Never.

I don´t have any faith on them. And i don´t know any other KTM rider who go with RT although that´s not to say there aren´t any.

If i lived in U.S those two afore mentioned tuners would be my only choice.

Maybe RT has learned something new ,i don´t know , but most U.S riders go to other sources - at least if you look either here or at KTMTalk.

Tell your friend you want to try his stuff before you decide. Then you´ll know how it performs. And why would that friend want to swap suspensions if his RT set is any good ?? Whatever you decide to do DON´T pay him 1000 bux on top.:ride: That´s nothing but stupid. Makes one wonder how good a friend he really is ... No insult intented.

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you can go to Precision Concepts, KTM's are thier # 2 behind kawasakis. They share settings with many top off road ktm teams. They have great off road knowledge and years of ktm expirience. They wont try to sell you a bunch off stuff you dont need! pm me if you want and i can put you in contact with the right person.

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Eric at Town & Country KTM in Hamburg, NJ did mine as his kid is racing MX on KTMs. He was way ahead of the curve IMO, got 09 settings in 08 kinda. Says the 2010 will be hard to improve.

Lots of experience & easy to deal with. 973-875-2111. Ask for George first!

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Lots of folks are using Stillwell, yes he uses RT parts but does his own shim stacks, not the chart stacks RT gives you, I know a lot of folks that have used him and are thrilled with his work. Alan does Shane Watts bikes also. Alan is one of the best guys in the off-road world I know just genuinely good guy that wants to make people happy off-road riders. I'm with Ville, $1000 is not a good deal when you can do it new and specifically for you for the about the same price, with gold valves, less without.

Stillwell Performance

Just had mine done and will give it a go this weekend, I did not use gold valves, not yet. Here is the thing it all depends on how you ride and what you ride, what you dont like about your suspension etc. Make sure no matter where you go that you know what you want the bike to do better and what you dont like about it. Be careful about judging anything from some elses suspension, example another rider may be the same weight height and have the same bike as me, but the suspension and valving be complete 100% different.

You will find Stillwell references all over TT, and being from AZ he knows the west and western riding very well, actually does a lot of testing out at the Mile Markers. At least give him a call, give them all a call and treat it like its an interview.

Your going to find good and bad about suspension guys, peopel that like A but not B and vise versa, two guys I have never heard anything bad about is Neil at Hitchcock industries in Englewood Colorado and Alan Stillwell in Franktown Colorado, even on KTMtalk. I think Alan is out until the 2nd, racing out east with Shane, leave a message, and ask him about your buddy's suspension.

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I have had RT Sweden ( it´s an approwed RT franchise and use all RT parts & specs) revalve my suspension before and it was worse than stock. After they had redone it the third time i finally gave up and went with another tuner. Either RT U.S nor any of their franchises will ever butcher my suspension again. Never.

I don´t have any faith on them. And i don´t know any other KTM rider who go with RT although that´s not to say there aren´t any.

If i lived in U.S those two afore mentioned tuners would be my only choice.

Maybe RT has learned something new ,i don´t know , but most U.S riders go to other sources - at least if you look either here or at KTMTalk.

Tell your friend you want to try his stuff before you decide. Then you´ll know how it performs. And why would that friend want to swap suspensions if his RT set is any good ?? Whatever you decide to do DON´T pay him 1000 bux on top.:ride: That´s nothing but stupid. Makes one wonder how good a friend he really is ... No insult intented.

I see what your saying, however i didn't explain it quite right. He bought an 09, and the parts are off his 07. He says the parts won't bolt up to his 09 so he was gonna take everything out and sell the parts. I suggested that if i buy the parts for his new one, we could switch up, since I was buying parts from race-tech anyways and have him install them. Just saving myself the install charge. He is a certified KTM mechanic (went to ohio for 2 weeks) so i trust his knowledge, he is also the fastest guy at the local races and was a national level sno-cross racer, so i think i trust him when he says it was an improvement. I ride all sand for racing, and im unbearably slow, so basically I just want a soft ride that turns well. Thats what he says it does. He's the same size and height but a lot faster so we'll see. I think i'll take your advise and try it out first, but like i said since i've only been riding a real dirt bike for a year, it'll be tough to tell what im looking for. I've tried his 07 for a couple minutes and it felt way better handling but almost more harsh on small bumps.

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I see what your saying, however i didn't explain it quite right. He bought an 09, and the parts are off his 07. He says the parts won't bolt up to his 09 so he was gonna take everything out and sell the parts. I suggested that if i buy the parts for his new one, we could switch up, since I was buying parts from race-tech anyways and have him install them. Just saving myself the install charge. He is a certified KTM mechanic (went to ohio for 2 weeks) so i trust his knowledge, he is also the fastest guy at the local races and was a national level sno-cross racer, so i think i trust him when he says it was an improvement. I ride all sand for racing, and im unbearably slow, so basically I just want a soft ride that turns well. Thats what he says it does. He's the same size and height but a lot faster so we'll see. I think i'll take your advise and try it out first, but like i said since i've only been riding a real dirt bike for a year, it'll be tough to tell what im looking for. I've tried his 07 for a couple minutes and it felt way better handling but almost more harsh on small bumps.

O.K. Consider this though ; Even you two are weighing about the same the skill level/speed differs quite a bit. A Pro weighing the same as ,say , a novice needs far stiffer suspension. A pro hits obstacles with far more speed thus his/her suspension needs to be valved stiffer. This is the reason you feel his suspension is acting harsh in small chop.

I still question the 1000 bux "fee" here ...

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O.K. Consider this though ; Even you two are weighing about the same the skill level/speed differs quite a bit. A Pro weighing the same as ,say , a novice needs far stiffer suspension. A pro hits obstacles with far more speed thus his/her suspension needs to be valved stiffer. This is the reason you feel his suspension is acting harsh in small chop.

I still question the 1000 bux "fee" here ...

OK makes sense, for 1000 bucks what can i get as far as sending it out. From what i gathered all I would get is springs and a re-valve up front and maybe the right spring for the shock from any reputable place. Would that likely serve me better than all the fancy shit(bladder kit, telescopic needle, progressive shock spring) that probably don't need? As for the fee, I know he's not trying to screw me over. It was my idea, i just wanted to pay what he paid since he only used his old bike twice since the parts were installed. If anything i'm just a day late, dollar short when it comes to suspension. Thank god theres guys like you willing to help a brother out.

Thanks

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thing is for 1K you should be able to get a full re-valve on each end, bladder kit, mid-valve, and a new shock spring, maybe not gold valves but shop it. All brand new and setup for you.

Believe this I dont know anyone that runs stock suspension, orange, red, green or yellow bikes, I almost got rid of my first KTM (05 450EXC) because to me it was un-ridable, suspension work at Hitchcock changed all that for me. Now my 08 stock is way better than the 05 but still need the suspension work done. I did a shock spring first (progressive, its my preference), rode for a while and learned what I liked and didnt, then I have just done the re-valve (no gold valves), shock bladder kit, and the mid-valve, this was done by Stillwell, but I have yet to ride it, look for a report on this forum on Sunday night. I have to say when you break down the WP Shock you can see why a bladder is a good idea, mechanically and in my personal opinion only.

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If you want to go with MX tech, .... there is a rep. in Canada, ... it could save you some $$$ on shipping.

you can send it to MX Tech / Canada (Cycle improvements) in Waterloo, Ontario and have both ends done for about $ 1000.00 CAD

http://www.cycleimprovements.com/ you can talk to Jim Hunt

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Trail Tricks - Did my 05 KTM exc (just gave him the bike @ a race) - Very Pleased ( He also does all the work for a Euro KTM race team) Cost $700

Dick's Racing - I have buddies that have used him and swear by his work. $1K ish

Smart Suspension - Just did my 09 WR450, very nice and great guy to work with. (gave him the bike, cost around $680 w/ linkage relube service)

Just my 2 bit's

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