I did a search so before you tell that i did and most threads i found are having the exact opposite problem I am. I was reading a post on a guy with a 08 yz 450 with the lower pegs. He said the bolt under the peg that creates the angle of the peg to be up or down or even flush was hitting his frame/peg brackets and they would not sit flat but at an angle going up. I put the pegs on testing it and that little bolt (FKMS (Fast Kamber Mounting System) allows you to adjust the upward and downward tilt of the pegs.) is not long enough. My pegs are dropped way down and the bolt is very short and does not hit my frame until the pegs are basically angle down which is unrideable. I now went and looked on there site and they say from 06-09 (im sure 10' also) you have to buy the low boy brackets. http://www.promotobillet.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/23_99_105/products_id/409 But when I did the search i read that getting the stock peg brackets off are IMPOSSIBLE that even with a impact gun they will not budge. So my next question is what pegs are lower than stock that can just bolt on without all these problems. Im taking these back tomorrow but im used to lowboy pegs. Is there any other option other than the Fastway pegs?