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I bought a bike from a guy about 2000 miles away from me without checking out the bike first (very stupid thing to do) I just saw some pictures of it. It was a great deal so I took it.

Been waiting about a month for the bike to be couriered to me and every day the guy has another excuse for why it has not been delivered yet. Now the guy has my money and the bike.

I called the police and opened a fraud case against the guy but we all know how long that is going to take. That might take months and in the meanwhile I have nothing to ride.

What should I do cause I have no idea how to handle something like this?????

Any help would be greatly apreciated

tanx!

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Ewwwwwwww.

Airline ticket and show up unexpected. Have all your paperwork and ask to have a local Police escort, (you could hire an off duty officer to just stand on the curb) rent a truck and take bike to shipper yourself......IF YOU EVEN GET THE BIKE.

Lets hope it works out OK for you.:thumbsup:

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That what I am afraid of teh fact that there might be no bike at all. Luckily I have names, phone numbers, banking details and adres. That is not a bad idea at all but I can go through all that trouble and still not get either bike or money.

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Forget it, the money is gone. He probably didn't even give you the correct address.

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To have a bank account you have to be a RSA citizen and have a fixed adres so it is not that easy to dissapear. And there is a fraud case open against him so he cant leave the country.

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Before i do anything like that i always 'Google map' the place,(if you have the address)some places have actual street side pictures of the house.(My address shows my wife pulling into the driveway,haha) Then call and ask what the place looks like. I did this once and the address was a Cemetery.Then i found out this was where the person worked,so this was a shipping address.

Was this done through paypal?

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Nope Electronic transfer. I am just afraid I end up with neither bike nor money and then I am screwed cause then I dont have anything to ride cause a friend of mine just wrote of my other bike.

I know I was very stupid to do it this way but I neede the bike asap for a race and so I deposited the money thinking if he had the money he would ship it the next day.

Do any of you guys know if debt collectors are legal?

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No matter how this turns out you have learned a very valuble lesson...and posting it on here will definately make people aware that fraud exists....everywhere. It also goes to show that some people..(the thief) still need a good 'ol fashioned ass kicking.

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I bought a bike from a guy about 2000 miles away from me without checking out the bike first (very stupid thing to do)

From that first sentence it looks like you learned your lesson :thumbsup:

I would never hand over money for something that I couldn't physically touch. There are so many scams and bad people out there, more now than ever due to the economy. You can never be too safe. I hope everything turns out okay for you and you get your bike or the money!

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Sorry to say, but you are screwed. I almost fell for the same thing about ten years ago. A guy on craigslist was selling a bike I wanted. When I went to Western Union to transfer the money, they put a block on it saying there was a warning on the guy for fraud. I got lucky. I recommend you find a couple people bad ass dudes to track this guy down and beat the money out of him.

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I am a police officer and we deal with this type of thing pretty often. I can also tell you that I bought a $28K boat on ebay 2000 miles away. It was very stressful, but I did everything I could do to check out the seller to verify he was legit. I then only transfered 10% until I verified it was on the truck headed here. I arranged the transportation myself. I also had a relative who lived in Florida go by and look at the boat.

So, regarding your case. You need to report it to the police and also keep in contact with the police. Some jurisdictions just take a report and do very little follow up. You need to stay on them and make sure they are doing everything they can do to investigate your case, but don't piss em off either. If its a scam, its unlikely an arrest will be made as the scammers often have their tracks covered pretty well. If its not a scam, police contact may be the nudge he needs to get it shipped. But, I hate to say, it doesn't look good.

Make sure you have all the paperwork and websites, etc, copied for the officer. Police will have to send subpoenas all over the place to get the IP address of the suspect and is time consuming. Here, a jury has to order subpoenas. Then the police can attempt contact with the suspect. These investigations are a pain in the ass.

The good news is its only 2K, pretty cheap lesson. I look back on my boat purchase and think how bad that could have been. I would not do it again. I got a great deal, but the risk was just too much if it went south.

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Nope Electronic transfer. I am just afraid I end up with neither bike nor money and then I am screwed

Electronic transfer is the first clue to a scam. Once it is done you are screwed. I don't see this ending well for you but good luck.

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just dont give up man.

ive known alot of people who have delt with fraud.

chase the insurance company bought our house at an auction without ever receiving a certified letter......

we didnt even know they put it up for sale...

the reason it was up is because we got into debt, because of my coke head mom forging my coke head dads checks.

we got hit double time.

just dont give up because thats usually how it always ends with these cases.

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Go get a concealed weapons permit, buy a couple of hand guns, and go to the mother f'rs place and get your money. If he bullshits you around, put a bullet in his knee. You'll get your money.

MAX!!!

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He lives in south africa, no one is allowed guns over there legally.

I would make the trip down there personally at this point, like the others have suggested bring all your paperwork and don't count on the police to help you. If they do great, but if they don't then don't be surprised, totally different country/province so the rules are totally different most likely.

If the cops come, then I'd say you got some good odds of getting the bike, that is if you have proof that the bike is at his house. All free countries have the "innocent until proven guilty" right and you cannot infringe upon it unless you have intent. If you have proof that the bike is at his house and the police believe that what you have could hold up in court, then that's intent to search and you have good odds. If you have a instant message printout of a conversation with 'coolguy86' saying that your bike is there, then don't count on shit.

Either way, show up at his house unexpected, it's going to cost you a little more money to go down there but it's better than just sitting there IMO.

Just say that you want your bike, it was taking too long so you decided to pick it up. If he gives you trouble and tells you to F off then that's when you should take things into your own hands and come back later.. if you know what I mean.

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yup. I would go down there myself if I were you, if he doenst give you the money or bike back I would brake every bone in his body with a bat and destroy everything he owns. probably burn his house and car down too. it would be well worth the jail time IMO to get revenge on those POS nigerian scammers. im so sick of them and cant believe people actually still fall for them.

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yup. I would go down there myself if I were you, if he doenst give you the money or bike back I would brake every bone in his body with a bat and destroy everything he owns. probably burn his house and car down too. it would be well worth the jail time IMO to get revenge on those POS nigerian scammers. im so sick of them and cant believe people actually still fall for them.

So instead of being out $2000 and moving on, you'd choose to ruin the rest of your life? :thumbsup:

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So instead of being out $2000 and moving on, you'd choose to ruin the rest of your life? :ride:

thats not the point. its the principle of the matter. hes a worthless scamming POS and deserves what he gets. I have no sympathy for people like that.

scamming is a huge risk for huge reward. yes its free money, but yes you can get killed or very very badly beaten if you get caught by some people.

bottom line is I WOULD make him regret it, simple as that :thumbsup:

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