Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  

Clutch pulls wicked HARD, help!!

Recommended Posts

I bought a used 2007 CRF450R. It has a reckluse outer clutch but the stock pressure plate and center clutch. The stock "pink" springs were in it, but I replaced them with new pink ones anyway. The cable isn't new, but with the clutch out it moves freely, no problem there. The pressure plate is showing signs of wear and should be replaced. Why does the clutch lever pull so hard? I expect it to be more than a 250, but this is rediculous. Please HELP if you can.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Every one I let ride my 08 complains about how hard my clutch is to pull. Unless you feel binding when you pull the clutch lever, its probably just normal for the crf450r. :thumbsup: Just start playin with yourself with your left hand and you'll get used to it:banana:.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Also, check the pivot point on the lever. does it have a brass insert? if not, file it in the T can and get a better one. buff the smooth part of the bolt and grease it, you'll be surprised.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Every one I let ride my 08 complains about how hard my clutch is to pull. Unless you feel binding when you pull the clutch lever, its probably just normal for the crf450r. :thumbsup: Just start playin with yourself with your left hand and you'll get used to it:banana:.

Excellent advice! Being ambidextrous is great, but it's so much more work!

You said you replaced the stock pink springs with new ones. Are the new ones stock or aftermarket. Personally, most aftermarket springs feel much stiffer then OEM springs.

Pull out the clutch lifter rod and make sure it is straight and doesn't have any burs.

Even though the cable might pull smoothly it still might be worn out. With unknown hours on it, I would replace it anyway.

Forgive my ignorance, but what does a worn out pressure plate look like?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Excellent advice! Being ambidextrous is great, but it's so much more work!

You said you replaced the stock pink springs with new ones. Are the new ones stock or aftermarket. Personally, most aftermarket springs feel much stiffer then OEM springs.

Pull out the clutch lifter rod and make sure it is straight and doesn't have any burs.

Even though the cable might pull smoothly it still might be worn out. With unknown hours on it, I would replace it anyway.

Forgive my ignorance, but what does a worn out pressure plate look like?

There were pink springs in it (a pink stripe factory painted on each one), and I ordered new stock replacement ones. The new ones that came were pink also. Was probably unnecessary to change them, but for the money I changed them out. I will be replacing the clutch part and the cable as well, for piece of mind. Who knows, may cure the problem. The pressure plate has a ridge around the edge where the first clutch plate touches it. The clutch material isn't as wide as the aluminum and from use has warn leaving a slight ridge on the edge.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mine was the same way. I replaced pressure plate, hub, and new clutch cable, asv levers. pulls like a champ!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I always thought that ASV levers were a mindless gimmick....until I bought my CRF450R with them already installed. I've never been able to pull the clutch with one finger like I can with the ASV's. You might start by replacing the levers first.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I never would have believed what the problem was, but I got it figured out. Like I said earlier, the cable moves freely with the clutch out, so I never suspected it. Although upon further review it seems to be warn at the end. With nothing to lose, I lubed it with some wd-40 and BAM!!! it came right into it. Must be under load the crap in it was binding? Not sure, but I have a new cable coming. Thanks for all your help. Maybe I'll tell the Mrs. that I need the new levers anyway? He he he.

Rotordawg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mine is the same way. Lubed it but still hard, nature of the beast. Im sure there is a design solution. Its simple physics of lerage. Thats why the ASVs probably work well, as does the Maguro. Anyone else have an aftermarlet lever whose design makes this clutch pull feel like butter? Leaning toward ASV but would like to know for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

if you want the the smoothest clutch ever just install a reckluse pro .:banana: you will never have a sore hand from clutching again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mine is the same way. Lubed it but still hard, nature of the beast. Im sure there is a design solution. Its simple physics of lerage. Thats why the ASVs probably work well, as does the Maguro. Anyone else have an aftermarlet lever whose design makes this clutch pull feel like butter? Leaning toward ASV but would like to know for sure.

Personally, I've felt the pull on some ASV levers and wasn't anything special - definitely didn't justify the price. But, if I was going to fork out the dough for some trick levers, the Sunline levers are the shit (figuratively speaking of course).

I have the stock clutch lever and my pull is butter smooth... really. Aside from the cable the springs make a big difference too. OEM are very good. Recently tried some Barnett clutch springs, and found them to be excellent.

By the time you 'need' to lube the cable it's already worn out. A new one will really make the biggest difference.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Forgive my ignorance, but what does a worn out pressure plate look like?

Warnplate.jpg

There should not be that ridge on the inside of the plate surface.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Reply with:

Sign in to follow this  

  • Similar Content

    • By 33KTM350
      I just bought a Magura hydraulic clutch for my 2014 CRF450R.  Bought it thinking install would be easy, and I'm not sure that's the case now that I have the product in my hands.  I have searched the forums, YouTube, etc for install help specifically for my model year (2013 and 2014 are same really), and haven't found anything specific for the 2013-2014 model install at all.  Instructions from Magura are TERRIBLE, and are not specific at all to the Honda - generic instructions - so I'm debating if I want to return the product, cuz I don't want trouble or a big install job.  Question: for the 2013-2014 CRF450R install ONLY of a Magura Hymec hydraulic clutch - other model years are different and thus it won't be helpful for other model years - do you have any tips or feedback?  My concerns are below...
      1.  The 2014 model has a sleeve behind the clutch actuation arm that the Magura clutch slave cylinder fits into.  Stock, the sleeve holds one end of the cable, with a nut on the other end to keep the cable end tight in the sleeve.  The Magura slave cylinder, however, slides into the mounting sleeve  - but does NOT have a nut: the tension from the clutch actuation arm pulling on the metal Magura slave cyl tip end is apparently supposed to keep the Magura slave cylinder tight in the mounting sleeve.  Q: Will the Magura slave fit in to the mounting sleeve easily, stay tight, and is there any adjustment needed in order to keep the 4-6mm of freeplay that Magura recommends?  How easy is it to get the Magura slave fitted into the sleeve and the metal tip in place?  Is there enough freeplay between slave and tip end to mount in actuating arm AND the holding sleeve, so that the holding sleeve doesn't need to be unbolted?  
      2. The stock clutch cable and OEM setup runs out of the mounting sleeve (see pics marked "metal starts", and then runs through a metal sleeve that routes the cable through the engine compartment - keeping the cable away from the hot parts of the engine case, so as not to melt the cable insulation (I believe).  That metal sleeve is about 6-8 inches in length.  The Magura clutch cable, on the other hand, exits the Magura slave cylinder at an angle - yet has no such metal routing.  I don't think the OEM metal routing sleeve will accept the Magura cable either, so a) the OEM metal routing sleeve would have to be removed first before installing the Magura - and then b) you have to hope that the Magura cable can be routed in such a way with zip ties holding the hydraulic line that line will not touch or be close to the hot metal engine casing as you route it through the engine.  Q: how easy was it to get the OEM clutch cable and metal routing sleeve out?  Easy as unscrewing the nut on the other end of the OEM cable, on the other side of the black rubber cable flange in my pics?   
      3.  My stock clutch pull isn't bad.  I just like the feel of a hydro clutch.  Any feedback on how much better feeling and easier pull will be with the Magura?  What's your feedback on the difference?  FYI, I'm leaving my clutch plates and springs stock.    
       




    • By Eric Blasiman
      We have a 2016 CRF450R with about 11 hours out. never ridden hard always check the oil and change when needed along with the air filter. Took care of the recall that was required as well. Well when riding the bike was stalled out. Went to try and kick start the bike again. the kick start lever just back up jamming my knee into the handle bars and some how ended up cracking the case right by where the kick start goes through the case. Has any one had this happen or heard of this happening? What is the cause? 
    • By crfjunky1320
      Any advice on what should be replaced while I have the top end off for a valve replacement. Will do headgasket and springs of course, anything other parts you would recommend while I'm going at it?
       
      Thanks!
    • By Ron Whitfeld
      The dirtbike is on it's forth year right now on the same motor job. I have to jump start it. Is it worth me trading for a 2009 650 brute force with7000 miles? Need some expert advice. Thanks 
    • By Lucas Hansen
      Just wondering what you guys do to remove black marks on your seat. My 08 crf450r has the red/black seat, and after each ride there are some black marks on the red from my riding pants. Not scuff marks, more like patches of black residue from my pants rubbing on the seat. I’ve tried the magic eraser which seemed to do the trick, but lately they seem like they aren’t coming off. Also tried scrubbing bubbles with a brush and no luck. Not too worried cuz I have an spare OEM seat, but I’d like to keep this one nice. Any ideas? Maybe I shouldn’t wear black pants?
×