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Last week the DNR hired a Seattle company called Hough Beck & Baird as the Reiter trail consultant.

It looks to me like they intentionally picked someone that knows nothing about ORV recreation. :thumbsup:

See link:

http://www.houghbeckandbaird.com/

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Todd this has to be a JOKE !!!!! More waste of taxpayer money. I thought Snohomish County was looking at taking Reiter over since the DNR is broke???

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The DNR broke??? they always seem to be busy rerouting our mt bike trails on Tiger mt. I can't be the only one who thinks that most of the projects they start really don't do anything to help conserve and control errosion but just create the illusion that they actually do something other than sell timber and mine gravel :thumbsup:

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The DNR doesn't know what the h#** it is doing when it comes to recreation. They need to listen to the user groups and not waste SOOOO much MONEY.

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Looking at there portfolio they have no experience dealing with something like this. Is there a company in the northwest that has dealt with something like this in the past?

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Minds me of a failing company who hires a hatchetman to do their layoffs and downsizing because they don't have the balls to do it themselves.

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Last week the DNR hired a Seattle company called Hough Beck & Baird as the Reiter trail consultant.

It looks to me like they intentionally picked someone that knows nothing about ORV recreation. :thumbsup:

See link:

http://www.houghbeckandbaird.com/

Urban architecture???? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!

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Here is what I found so far about these planners. Below are some projects I have found that they were involved in.

Steel Lake- Fed Way

Seatac Airport

Market Square- University Place (Their contract stated "...Who is experienced in the design of livable town centers and communities")

Port of Tahuya

http://www.tahuya.org/PAP-plan.pdf (Page 2 shows their qualifications)

Old Village Trail Improvement-Bellingham

http://www.cob.org/cob/contracts.nsf/(vwluUNID)/EFA43E36710049B2882570B4005B8CFC/$file/20050147A.pdf

Colie Hough-Beck is a Seattle Planning Commisioner and discloses in this link (at the bottom of page 2) that her firm HBB is working on the Mercer Corridor project and the Viaduct and Seawall replacement.

http://www.cityofseattle.net/planningcommission/minutes/Feb262009_ApprovedMinutes.pdf

Whatcom Waterfront Master Plan-Bellingham

http://www.djc.com/special/landscape98/10037854.htm

Waterfront Park/State Ave Improvements- Marysville

Port of Seattle

http://www.keystonewalls.com/media/Literature/CS0010.pdf

Bear Creek Parkway Extension-Redmond

http://quezadaconsulting.com/Documents/Bear%20Creek%20examples.pdf

Brightwater Treatment Plant

http://www.seattlewomanmagazine.com/articles/jan06-3.htm

Roosevelt Park Improvements-Bellingham

http://www.cob.org/cob/contracts.nsf/(vwluUNID)/1043B1559D5048ED88256D2C0004F329/$file/20030094A.pdf

Hwy 527 & Bothell Way Intersection-Bothell

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Quit bitching about them and politely explain to them what you want. You may be suprised at the results. Polite persistence may pay off.

They may still ignore you, but at least you acted like an adult.

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Quit bitching about them and politely explain to them what you want. You may be suprised at the results. Polite persistence may pay off.

They may still ignore you, but at least you acted like an adult.

They got some trail input at the motorized field day and said they would start by "drawing pencil lines on a map of where they want trails". It just seems foolish to pick "Urban Planners" who haven't built motorized trails. :thumbsup:

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Quit bitching about them and politely explain to them what you want. You may be suprised at the results. Polite persistence may pay off.

They may still ignore you, but at least you acted like an adult.

That should be part of a multi-pronged approach. :thumbsup:

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Is there a company in the northwest that has dealt with something like this in the past?

Yes there is.:thumbsup:

I have submitted a public records request to see which ones of the well qualified folks applied.

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I agree that "Urban Planners" does sound pretty foolish, but it's what we have to work with. Make the best of what you have.

Reiter has more iron in the ground(leftover logging debris) than Seattle, anyway.

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Take one of these with you so they will have something to read in their free time.

Off Highway Motorcycle Trails guide for design, contstruction..... by Joe Wernex

Cool. Good material.:thumbsup:

I agree that "Urban Planners" does sound pretty foolish, but it's what we have to work with. Make the best of what you have.

Reiter has more iron in the ground(leftover logging debris) than Seattle, anyway.

These are landscape architects. They are trained/very competent in site design and how to lay out trails - albeit non-motorized. Per Tod this firm has zero experience with motorized trails. At the end of the day they are paid by DNR and will do what DNR wants unfortunately. However, they:re not demons or imbecile types.

Edited by shrubitup

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