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I just got back from taking a test ride on a 2010 TE250 that will soon be a demo bike for my dealer. Nice to be able to try a bike before you buy it.

I have been off a bike for 18 months so I didn't push too hard. Swinging a leg over the bike felt like any other recent year Husky. The ergos are comfortable if they favor a taller rider. Jeff said he had tweaked the EFI a bit that morning and adjusted the clickers as well.

The bike fired up instantly but I was disappointed to hear how loud the bike is. It isn't mx loud but is way too much for shared trails. I'll add an FMF Q4 or equivalent on my bike when I pick it up. I am pretty up-tight about exhaust note but the consensus among the group was that the bike needs to lose a few db for the woods so I don't think it's me.

I was concerned the bike would be all race and not trail worthy but that concern went away pretty quickly. The bike, with only 10 miles on the odo, pulled very hard, especially in the mid and upper rpm range. I expected less low end power but the bike is pretty strong down low. The bike wasn't real comfortable in the just above idle range where I sometimes find myself in really tight gnarly switchback type of terrain but once up a few rpm the bike really takes off. Everyone says you need to ride the bike like a 125 and while that may be the best way to extract the engine's full potential, the power will work well for recreational use like I intend.

So why might the bike not be real happy at extremely low revs? Could it be the engine is just so new it didn't want to run at that rpm range? That would not surprise me. Could it be the EFI needs tweaking? Maybe but the bike was so perfect everywhere else I can't really say. Could it be the fact that 1st gear is a little too tall for those conditions? I think that is it. I have always felt the TE line had too tall a first gear for really tight woods so this bike isn't really any different. This new engine certainly likes to rev but performs pretty well everywhere.

Given that so many people have purchased the TXC I was worried the TE would be too tame for when the trails open up. That concern is now out the window. I didn't ride too hard but I had no trouble keeping the front end up on the sections of trail where that was needed. This new 250 engine is certainly more responsive than the older style. That inspires confidence. This bike is a lot stronger in the mid range than the 2007 TE250 I had and is much faster on top.

The sachs shock seemed to work very well and based on this initial ride I don't think I'll need a revalve. The forks, to my surprise, felt about perfect. They felt close to my re-valved Marzocchis and though I hated to see the zokes go, I don't think their will be any performance penalty.

The bike shifted well and the brakes were strong enough but I could tell the pads and rotors were not yet broken in. Cornering was light and natural as the bike settles into corners very easily. One of the coolest things about the bike was how smooth the engine ran. While last years 250 didn't vibrate too badly, this bike is noticeably smoother.

So I'll pick one up in the next few weeks and hopefully by then FMF will have a Q-4 available. With that and a 52 tooth rear sprocket the bike should work perfectly for the PNW.

Greg

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I thought I found the perfect bike (TE250) untill I heard about the low end gremlin. I picked up a Montesa trails bike to play with in the slow stuff for now but will keep my fingers crossed that 2011 has that bike dialed in for the slow stuff.

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I thought I found the perfect bike (TE250) untill I heard about the low end gremlin. I picked up a Montesa trails bike to play with in the slow stuff for now but will keep my fingers crossed that 2011 has that bike dialed in for the slow stuff.

I have heard about an off-idle stumble that EFI tuning can fix but I have not heard of any real gremlins. I think a larger rear sprocket will take of this concern for me. What else have you heard I may have missed?

Greg

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I have heard about an off-idle stumble that EFI tuning can fix but I have not heard of any real gremlins. I think a larger rear sprocket will take of this concern for me. What else have you heard I may have missed?

Greg

I called the low speed issue a gremlin because nobody can seem to eliminated it. Every test ride I have ever read about mentions it. You seem to be OK with working around it and I'm sure every thing else about it makes it the 250 to have. It's just now I ride on trails that need this low RPM. They are big loose rocks and I can't afford a stumble at low rpm. Any where else and I'd have one. I have read and you can search here that the factory missed some lock tight on seat bolts or somthing so give them a good once over. My dealer didn't seem up on the FI tunning and steered me toward a Husaberg 390. I had the cash but decided I wanted a lighter bike like the TE250 so I'll wait. I have a Rokon 2x2 (luv it), XR 400 (BRP jr.) and a Montesa 315R Trials (bike is in the mail). My stable needs that 250 but the market rules and the market wants power at top end. Good luck with your new bike and sorry if the gremlims coment had you wondering. You bought my favorit and IMHO the best 250. Post up if you find a rock solid way to dial in the low speed.

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I called the low speed issue a gremlin because nobody can seem to eliminated it. Every test ride I have ever read about mentions it. You seem to be OK with working around it and I'm sure every thing else about it makes it the 250 to have. It's just now I ride on trails that need this low RPM. They are big loose rocks and I can't afford a stumble at low rpm. Any where else and I'd have one. I have read and you can search here that the factory missed some lock tight on seat bolts or somthing so give them a good once over. My dealer didn't seem up on the FI tunning and steered me toward a Husaberg 390. I had the cash but decided I wanted a lighter bike like the TE250 so I'll wait. I have a Rokon 2x2 (luv it), XR 400 (BRP jr.) and a Montesa 315R Trials (bike is in the mail). My stable needs that 250 but the market rules and the market wants power at top end. Good luck with your new bike and sorry if the gremlims coment had you wondering. You bought my favorit and IMHO the best 250. Post up if you find a rock solid way to dial in the low speed.

The low speed is very critical to myself as well. I have no bike right now and don't want the weight of the bigger bikes so I need to go 250. I also want EFI so Husky is my top choice. I am less concerned about the low speed stumble as I am about gearing. I am sure the EFI can be sorted out but gearing has to be done via a larger rear sprocket. But if two teeth get the gearing where I need it to be then the bike will be perfect.

Regardless, I'll have one of these shortly and we'll keep everyone posted of how things progress.

Greg

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Most of these bikes do have a slight off idle hesitation, my 2010 TXC250 included. The ECU and pipe makes it 100% correct and rumor is the factory will be providing a ECU or flash upgrade that completely eliminates the slight issue. Mine runs very well and although it is still there some times the slight hesitation really is a very small wart on an otherwise fantastic machine. A 100% fix is near.

raisrx251 had some issues with his running right but says the ECU fixed it 100%

http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showpost.php?p=85019&postcount=7

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How much is the ECU and pipe upgrade?

That setup is $$$ but there is supposed to be a ECU or flash coming from the factory at some point. (rumor but seems true) My point was an ECU with the right stuff seems to fix it 100%

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Most of these bikes do have a slight off idle hesitation, my 2010 TXC250 included. The ECU and pipe makes it 100% correct and rumor is the factory will be providing a ECU or flash upgrade that completely eliminates the slight issue. Mine runs very well and although it is still there some times the slight hesitation really is a very small wart on an otherwise fantastic machine. A 100% fix is near.

raisrx251 had some issues with his running right but says the ECU fixed it 100%

http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showpost.php?p=85019&postcount=7

When you say pipe do you mean muffler, pipe or both? Which manufacturer?

As you know better than anyone, this bike likes to be pushed to perform at it's best. Do you see any drawback to a thoroughbred like this for your more casual trail rides?

Greg

Edit: Clicked on your link. Leo Vince.

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As you know better than anyone, this bike likes to be pushed to perform at it's best. Do you see any drawback to a thoroughbred like this for your more casual trail rides?

the bike will not care and i don't see any reason you can't make it trail putt just fine. Seems near impossible to overheat like the other 250F huskys and has a fan if it ever tried. It does like to bark and jump but you don't always have to (if you can keep yourself from doing so 👍)

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Hello, Yes there is a small issue off the bottom with the stock ECU. It is not terrible and can be adapted to in the tight ignorant trails. It is not a true hesitation like with a carb or where you can get it to flame out. It is more of a stumble. When I first got the bike it was more pronounced but after meshing with the bike you understand it and do not notice it as much. I think this is due to just adapting to the bike. Of course this is not acceptable and like Ride said I hear rumors of a fix and I think we are about 1 month out. I was on a mission with this and the part number 8000H2929 Leo Silencer/ECU combo fixes it for sure. I had to wait and wait for this but I think here in the U.S. they got about 25 of them in so it should be readily available. If you don't have a trusty dealer I know my dealer, Ridersville Cycle can get them in quick with a good price. Just tell them you want Tim's pipe. The bike is so much more linear and can be plonked around or run on top. I also tried the stock silencer with the SA out and the problem still is gone which proves the point. Again I would be shocked if Husky did not have a update for the ECU.

It is a lot of money to fix something that should not need to be fixed. The saving grace of it though is you get a cool silencer out of it with options to run different sound levels. It saves a little weight and is not too loud, not too quiet even at the most open setting of the Leo. If you install the tube insert you hear the air box more than the silencer. Simple to install the ECU as well but you will need to reset your TPS as the directions show. You either need Ibeat or have your dealer do it. The whole process takes less than 2 minutes for the TPS.

The other option is a Power Commander V with auto tune. The advantage of this is whatever you do to your bike you know the Air fuel ratio is spot on. I have also seen the dyno runs of this and looks like a nice curve like my bike feels now. I had to be a test mule for the Leo's ECU to prove a point but either one will work. Maybe I wanted to be like "Meo".

I have to say that I love the way this bike handles. That point gets missed out sometimes with all the talk of how powerful the motor is or the hesitation. The weight is right and I feel confident on the bike going over stuff in the off cambers with uphills. The WR 125 is great too but with the four stroke motor it pulls smooth and strong. Threading through the trees has never been easier for me than on this bike. That is why I did not give up on this stumble issue.

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My clutch hand went through a blistering stage trying to make the bike slower in the tight stuff. Now it's my throttle hand. It is really snappy as already mentioned and I think I'm subconsciously working the gas a lot. An ECU flash would be cool! I like messing with firmware. The G2 would probably be very beneficial to tame the response just a little. Or, I can keep learning the bike and eventually not need it. Still a blast to ride!

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