AMainMaker Posted March 28, 2010 Here the big question. I have a 2003 CRF450r and a 2000 CR250R my likes on both bikes 450R lots of torque no mixing gas seems to handle pretty well but haven't had it on a track yet even power through the whole range little to no chance of low speed stall 250r like the Power band starts a whole lot easier easy to maintain ( no valves to adjust ) tuning seems to be set and forget for mine at least lighter Dislikes 450r starts hard seem to have to mess with carb tuning alot maintenance a bit heavier wears on the arms with alot of riding gets hott alot faster 250R mixing gas low end torque for trails a little low a little less handling ability a little trickyer to manage All in all the likes I have in one the other doesn't have I will be trail and track riding but not sure about racing yet. I really dont need 2 bikes so I need to decide which to keep and which in yours guys opinions would be best for what I am out for. I just cant decide. If I do keep the 2t over the 4 I wont replace it with a newer model mainly cause Honda doesn't make 2t anymore ( should this be a deciding factor on keeping 2t?) Since I haven't track riden either yet which one will benefit me the most for track and trail? Thanks Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cr 250 Posted March 28, 2010 keep the 2 stroke you will regret it if you sell it, you can always get another 4 stroke if you want to. cr 250 is cheaper to maintain and run and a good allrounder and if the 4 stroke blows its big bucks the 2000 cr 250 was a awesome year for the cr's so keep it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpt50 Posted March 28, 2010 Yea, the 2000 CR is a sweet bike. I just sold my 01 CR for a new KTM 250 SX. I really wanted a new bike, but quite frankly the old CR was very competitive with anything out there. The two mods that really helped my CR were: 1. a 12 OZ flywheel weight (I bought it for trails, but ended up leaving it on the bike for everything, as it worked so well) 2. a JD jet kit (your bike has the better carb, so you might not need this) Also, a suspension revalve can work wonders on those bikes if you are using it primarily offroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esten831 Posted March 28, 2010 Sell both of them and get a KTM XC or XC-W 250 or 300 2t, they are awesome bike's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josmoloco Posted March 28, 2010 mixing gas is so easy...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMainMaker Posted March 28, 2010 I am really shocked that there is no favors towards a 4 stroke??? Isn't that the now and everyone has one? Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josmoloco Posted March 28, 2010 Who wants a 4t?🤣 They are the "yesterday", being used in the "now".....👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KcDavis My Ride Posted March 29, 2010 the 250 has plenty of torque, you just need to adjust your gearing. And is it really that hard to mix gas..... a whole 15 seconds to pour and shake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin415mx Posted March 29, 2010 I would keep the 2 stroke for sure. The 450s are always evolving and if u want u can get a new 450 down the road that is way better than your 2003. However it will be hard to find new two strokes soon and they arent much different now than your CR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shrubitup Posted March 29, 2010 Which one makes you 👍 the most? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMainMaker Posted March 29, 2010 no mixing gas isnt that hard it is just more convenient to fuel and go. As for which makes me 👍 most. I realy cant decide I like them both alot. I am still surprised there isn't any 4t fans. Is there much difference in my 03 compared to say a 06-08? I am not a fan of the EFI CRFs they offer now as just like cars they start screwing with making everything EFI they make it harder to work on yourself. I am tempted just to keep the CR and sell the crf and get a newer model but curious if there really is any benefit to the newer over mine. I know the frame is a bit smaller but engine and suspension is there any difference?? Thanks Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RayoVac Posted March 30, 2010 I too am surprised there has not been more response from 4-Strokers, given that this is a General Area on ThumperTalk! 🤣 Unless that many guys really feel like 2-Strokes are going to some how make a comeback... I would think there would be tons of responses from folks singing the praises of the 4-Stroke. Hmmm... maybe no answer or real stance from the 4-Stroker owners... Is your answer. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shrubitup Posted March 30, 2010 I was a rabid smoker's advocate. However, I found this YZ250F and like it better - enough to even (gasp) sell my YZ250 🙂. In fact, I think it makes a great trail bike. Never ridden a CRF450 so can't say much. The whole idea that one is VASTLY better than the other brand/stroke wise is SILLY.🤣 When you ride a bike you like it irregardless of brand/stroke. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KcDavis My Ride Posted March 30, 2010 Unless that many guys really feel like 2-Strokes are going to some how make a comeback... I think this would be secondary when compared to riding the preferences of a lot of riders. Plus, in order for 2 strokes to make a "comeback", we would have to buy them brand new in order to drive sales, while no one bought 4 strokes. Most of us have older used bikes. Yes, there are that many people that prefer 2 strokes, but it is just that....we prefer 2 strokes. No hidden agenda to dismantle the 4 stroke world or anything of the sort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tayhay8 Posted March 30, 2010 Yeah, you gotta hand it to the people at ktm and husky, making their 2-t's newer and better every coulple of years, if not every year. How long until they cant make 2-t's anymore? its a shameful thing to think about. Whatever you feel more comfortable on, and makes you really enjoy the day most. thats what u keep. i'm a 2 or 4t fan, for different reasons. go with yourt favorite. asking people on the internet is biased every time.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikkmx34 Posted April 4, 2010 i had the exact same problem. it really depends if you want power or a lighter bike. i went with the cr 250. that is mostly because im only 14 but im 5'7 and 200 pounds. the 250 still has more than enough power for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orangyktmthing Posted April 6, 2010 Hmm, I am in the same boat as shrub, I ended up getting rid of my 2t and picked up a 4t 450 and have been having a ball with it! I guess the whole reason is that I have never spent as much seat time in one before picking it up. I love the 450 for the GOBS of torque, no need to constantly be shifting up/down to find the sweet spot and it starts as easy as my 2t. I was always under the idea that the 4t starts hard when hot, but this thing is a one kick start without using my hot start. Maybe you should check the valve clearances on the 450. I will still eventually get another 2t for the grin factor, but damn! this 4t is so much easier to ride! Mine is an 05 and I really don't notice the weight as much as other people say they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RayoVac Posted April 6, 2010 Well by tomorrow this thread may be outdated. AMainMaker may be trading the 2000 250R for a 2005 CRF 450. So then he will have the quandary of "What bike to keep? 2003 CRF 450 or 2005 CRF 450. I will probably buy what he does not keep 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tayhay8 Posted April 6, 2010 test them back to back LOTS. then choose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMainMaker Posted April 7, 2010 Well I went ahead and got rid of the 250. I will probably miss it but the bike I got in exchange will be very nice will very little money. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
