Due to a lack of a newbie forum,

I'll post this here. (Is there one? I couldn't find it.)

How much safety equipment is necessary? I understand the need for things such as helmets, a decent pair of boots, and a sturdy pair of gloves. That being said, what should I be wearing? Elbow/wrist guards? A chest and back protector?

Another question: Are jerseys really necessary? If their point is to reduce cuts/scrapes, could I get away with just wearing BDUs?

Helmet, Boots, Goggles, and Gloves are absolutely necessary!

Motocross pants do have padding in them and they are designed to be able to fit knee protection underneath. A jersey is not required, although they are cheap and easy to take off and throw in the washing machine. Some jerseys have a small amount of padding.

I think beyond what is listed above. There are many options to protect your chest/shoulders/back, like a armor jacket, roost protectors, padding to wear under a jersey, ect.. Many guys wear some kind of knee brace/guard. If you are going to get into jumping and stunts, a neck brace might be good as well.

You could definitely wear BDU's. That is mainly what I wear when I ride. Haven't had the time or the job to buy all the fancy riding gear yet. I got a pair of riding boots, but depending on the riding I am doing, I sometimes just wear a pair of Jungle Boots ( as I don't have the full leather regular issue boots anymore). I have a good helmet and goggles and wear a decent pair of gloves. Once the funds become more available, I will add a chest protector and those extra protective type things.

i ended up buying protective equipment after every crash. :thumbsup:

helmet/boots/goggles/gloves are absolutes. over the years i added forearm/elbow pads, knee pads, and a chest protector.

jerseys are not necessary. i think pants are worth the money. if you're tight on finances, check out the clearance areas with the big online retailers.

good luck, and keep it safe!

Once the funds become more available, I will add a chest protector and those extra protective type things.

i really don't think knee guards, and a leatt brace are extra. if i were to forget my leatt brace at home one time i wouldn't ride.

I'll post this here. (Is there one? I couldn't find it.)

How much safety equipment is necessary? I understand the need for things such as helmets, a decent pair of boots, and a sturdy pair of gloves. That being said, what should I be wearing? Elbow/wrist guards? A chest and back protector?

Another question: Are jerseys really necessary? If their point is to reduce cuts/scrapes, could I get away with just wearing BDUs?

Elbow/forearm guards? Yep. Pics below (before the black/blue/yellow set in) is recent damage WITH them. I can imagine what it would have been like without. The guards had deep grooves in them and a part that with ripped open. I have made a hospital trip for stitches for sure.

Ballistic shorts? Wish I'd have put mine on that day. As they say, dress for the crash, not the ride.

At a min:

- helmet & goggles

- boots

- gloves

- knee

- elbow/forearm

- chest/back

I'd also advise:

- again, ballistic shorts for hip protection

- neck roll or neck brace



Like the sign says, "speed's just a question of money. How fast you wanna go?" and unless you're Roger De Coster, Scott Summers or Superman you are going to need protection. the older you get the harder it is to get back up.

i really don't think knee guards, and a leatt brace are extra.

And, I do. I have gone 20+ years of riding without, in my opinion, extra protective gear. Just because some people find them to be mandatory to ride, doesn't make them anymore affordable to someone who may be on a budget.

Now, that doesn't mean that I don't find value in any of this gear, and as time goes by, and I actually, finally, get a job, I will begin to acquire these things.

And, I do. I have gone 20+ years of riding without, in my opinion, extra protective gear. Just because some people find them to be mandatory to ride, doesn't make them anymore affordable to someone who may be on a budget.

Now, that doesn't mean that I don't find value in any of this gear, and as time goes by, and I actually, finally, get a job, I will begin to acquire these things.

i have the same feeling. when did these neck braces come out? it makes me laugh when i see OMY i wont even think of riding my bike without my leatt, astar, ect. how may years have these people rode without the brace before they came out? EVERYONE! and how may people just wear it because they think it looks cool? I not saying they dont work because every little protection on these bikes will help but saying you wont ride because you forgot it at home or what not is alittle far fetch isnt it?

Another question: Are jerseys really necessary? If their point is to reduce cuts/scrapes, could I get away with just wearing BDUs?

Jersey's really only offer better breath-ability, sometimes padding. There is absolutely no way they will help prevent cuts and scraps.

I know this because I spent an hour picking thorns out of my arms after riding in the woods last weekend. Surprisingly, the jersey held up fairly well through it all. Well, better than I did.

I agree with all the above. I ended up getting a killer deal at my local Honda dealer back in December on a whole outfit...pants, jersey and gloves (my choice of anything on the rack) for $79. Ended up getting myself a set and my son a set for Christmas). There are deals out there.

I am thinking about some knee braces in the near future, as I was on the track last weekend and my knees were really sore for the next day or so from the jumps.

I'll post this here. (Is there one? I couldn't find it.)

How much safety equipment is necessary? I understand the need for things such as helmets, a decent pair of boots, and a sturdy pair of gloves. That being said, what should I be wearing? Elbow/wrist guards? A chest and back protector?

Another question: Are jerseys really necessary? If their point is to reduce cuts/scrapes, could I get away with just wearing BDUs?

Check Dennis Kirk for clearance items. I bought a good pair of Thor riding pants for $13 online last year. You will be much more comfortable in these.

I wear helmet, gloves, goggles, riding pants, padded shorts (for tail bone), boots, and a jersey. I wear t-shirts sometimes but the jerseys don't stick to you like a t-shirt when you sweat.

I like the pants with the leather inner knee, depending on what you are riding the exhuast can burn jeans. Mostly have this problem on quads.


Helmet, goggles, boots, gloves, knee guards (crash once, and you'll see why), chest protector (see comment about knee guards).

Jersey and pants are good, so that you dont' crap up your good jeans or whatever other pants.

Neck brace turns into a religious discussion. I don't wear one, nor do I know anyone who does. But I wouldn't say don't wear one, just decide what is right for you first.

Edited by ajd187
added goggles to the list

Helmet, boots, gloves, pants and chest protector are mandatory in my family.

After landing on my elbows and knees one too many times, I've added knee guards and elbow protection (in the form of a 661 pressure suit and EVS Jersey for the kid) Next up is shorts. The pressure suite doesn't seem to protect the chest as well as a regular chest protector though; so it's a trade off. The boy's EVS Jersey is nice.

Cover yourself in baby oil.

Have two of your buddies pick you up & throw you into a sand box.(while standing 3 ft. above the ground)

You'll figure the rest out.

ALL the GEAR ALL the TIME !:thumbsup:

Edited by old_tri

MOTORCYCLE boots, helmet, gloves, goggles, long sleeved shirt, and long pants minimum or I do not ride. I also wear knee guards and sometimes a chest protector. Pants and jerseys are nice because they fit well while riding but completely unnecessary.

Jerseys are optional for sure.

I recently got back into riding dirt after a 2 year break. My old dirt boots are completely worn out. My old riding pants have huge holes in them. I bought some shin/knee guards for 5 bucks brand new. They've saved me once so far in the past month. But I wear jeans and my old riding jersey with some heavy duty work boots. I'm saving up for some real riding boots because honestly my work boots are now more protective than my limp worn out old dirt boots, but I'd rather have dedicated riding boots.

I've never had elbow or wrist guards, much less a neck brace, but I could see the value in elbow guards. I don't mind a skinned elbow too much though, but I definitely want to protect my knees. My cheapo knee/shin guards work great and are comfortable and were only 5 bucks.

I still have my old chest protector, but I gave it to my girlfriend because she's really just learning, and I've never "used" it before. Although I have definitely "used" the hell out of my boots and gloves and riding pants.

IMO, helmet, goggles, gloves, boots, and chest protector are mandatory. Jersey and riding pants are not, but they make it a little more comfortable. I've been looking for neck braces for me and my son, but until I get off the unemployment line, they will have to wait. I'm not as interested in one for me as much as for my son, who is just learning and getting more brave every time out. You just have to make the choice of what you feel is right to protect yourself. Just remember, this is a fairly dangerous sport and crashes aren't planned, but the next one may be your last, regardless of what you're wearing.





chest protector

MX pants




optional, that i don't to wear

neck brace.......... IMO waste of $

neck roll.............. i would wear one if i had one

knee brace.......... my knees are bad but knee braces are annoying

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      (Notice: Many people have destroyed jets and such by overtighting them! Use the thumb on the head of the wrench and two fingers on the wrench to tighten it down.)
      Thread the main jet into the tube it goes into, and then start putting it back on the carb. Thread the pilot jet in as well if you haven’t done so already. Remember these carburetor metals are soft as cheese, so don’t over tighten the jets very much. What I do is I put my thumb on the top of my ratchet, and use two fingers closest to the head of the ratchet to tighten the jet. That’s how tight I go when I tie them back in.
      Now before we put the carb back together, let’s adjust the fuel screw. Take a small screwdriver, and start screwing in the fuel screw until it sets. Again, do not over tighten, just let it set. Then count back your turns. Count back 1.75 turns.
      Now we must put the bowl back on. The white piece that came off with the bowl goes back as followed:

      If you look directly under the carb, the round hole is aligned with the pilot jet. Take the float bowl, and put it back on.
      Untie the rear clamp and the front clamp as well. Slip the carb back the way it used to. Make sure that it is straight up and down with the rest of the bike. The notch on the front boot should be aligned with the notch on the carburetor, and the notch on the carburetor should be in that slot. Tie the clamps down securely.
      Let’s put the needle in. These are how the needle numbers go:

      The top clip position is #1, the lowest one, closest to the bottom, is #5. (The picture says six but it is five in this case) For reference #1 is the leanest position, while 5 is the richest. I put the clip in the 4th position. Read at the bottom of the page and you can know what conditions I ride in, and you can adjust them to your preference.
      Put the clip in the new needle, slip it in. Take the vise grips off your grips and start guiding the plunger holder down to the bottom. Remember not to let that assembly come apart because it is a pain in the ass to get it back together! Once you get it to the bottom, put the two screws on, and then put the cover on.
      Now that you have done the carburetor mods, there is still one thing you want to do to complete the process. Don’t worry, this takes less than a minute! On the top of the air box there is a snorkel:

      As you can see, you can slip your fingers in and pull it out. Do that. This lets more air in to the air box. Don’t worry about water getting in. There is a lip that is about 1/8” high that doesn’t let water in. When you wash, don’t spray a lot under the seat, but don’t worry about it too much.
      The next thing you must do is remove the exhaust baffle. The screw is a torx type, or you can carefully use an allen wrench and take care not to strip it:

      The screw is at the 5 o’clock position and all you do is unscrew it, reach in, and yank it out. This setup still passes the dB test. The bike runs 92 dB per AMA standards, which is acceptable. Just carry this baffle in your gear bag if the ranger is a jerk off. I’ve never had a problem, but don’t take chances.
      That’s it! Start putting your tank on, seat, and covers. After you put the seat on, pull up on the front, and the middle of the seat to make sure the hooks set in place.
      Turn on the bike, and take a can of WD-40. Spray the WD-40 around the boot where it meets the carburetor. If the RPM rises, you know you have a leak, and the leak must be stopped. You must do this to make sure there are no leaks!
      Here is my configuration:
      04’ 230F
      Uni Air filter
      132 Main Jet
      45 Pilot Jet
      Power up needle, 4th clip position
      Fuel screw 1.75 turns out
      Riding elevation: 2000ft - Sea level
      Temperature – Around 60-90 degrees
      Spark Plug Tips
      When you jet your carb, a spark plug is a best friend. Make sure your spark plug is gapped correctly, (.035) but that’s not all that matters. You want to make sure the electrode is over the center, and you want the electrode to be parallel, not like a wave of a sea. Put in the plug, and run the bike for 15 mins, ride it around too then turn it off. Then take off the spark plug after letting the bike cool. The ceramic insulator should be tan, like a paper bag. If it is black, it is running rich, if it is white, it is running lean. The fuel screw should be turned out if it is running lean, and turned in if it is running rich. Go ¼ turns at a time until your plug is a nice tan color.
      Making sure your bike is jetted correctly
      While you are running the bike for those 15 mins to check the plug color, you want to make sure it’s jetted correctly now. Here is what the jets/needle/screw control:
      0- 3/8 throttle – Pilot jet
      ¼ to ¾ throttle – Needle
      5/8 – full throttle – Main jet
      0-Full – Fuel screw
      Pin the gas, does it bog much? Just put around, is it responsive? When you’re coming down a hill, the rpm’s are high and you have no hand on the throttle, does it pop? If it pops, it is lean and the pilot jet should be bigger. If it’s responsive your needle is set perfectly. You shouldn’t have to go any leaner than the 3rd position, but I put mine in the 4th position to get the most response. Your bike shouldn’t bog much when you have it pinned. If it does it is too rich of a main jet.
      Determining the plug color, you will have to mess with the fuel screw.
      That’s it, have fun jetting, and any questions, post on the forum, but remember to do a search first.
      Also, if your bike requires different jets due to alititude, humidity, or temperature, please post the following so we can better assist you:
      Average temperature
      Altitude (If you do not know this, there is a link in the Jetting forum that you can look up your alititude)
      Average Humidity
      What jets you are currently running
      What the problem is (If there is one)
      Just do that and we'll help you out the best we can.
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      Then again, you're more than welcome to say hi to her!
      -Phill Vieira
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