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is there any premix under like $8 a quart that isn't TC-W3?


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I'm not a fan of TC-W3 oils for motocross because how thin it is and how much heat and wear and tear motocross puts on a engine and i don't feel it lubricates it enough. And plus it doesn't help me that last time I ran a TC-W3 oil at a 20:1 ratio, after 2 rides with it, it took my crank out.

But is there any oils out there that aren't like the viscosity of water like a TC-W3 and that has a viscosity that is comparable to a normal dirtbike premix that is cheap? Because Klotz Benol is slowly eating away at my wallet.

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well, amsoil interceptor and dominator are about $10 a quart for full synthetic....

people get lucas semi synthetic on amazon for like $20 a gallon i hear....

ya klotz benol which is full castor oil is only $10 a quart. But because I ride hard and my topend and bottom ends tend to be on the dry side alittle no matter what oil I use if I don't mix atleast 24:1, it does add up rather quickly. So even a $2 a quart difference would add up over time quickly.

I was thinking about the lucas premix but I found its a 7.5 weight. So its kinda on the thin side. I think its the same weight as a tc-w3 or really close to it.

your crank going bad had nothing to do with using TC-W3 oils.

just sayin

I know it didn't. But its like a mental barrier type thing. I just can't get the confidence to run it again.

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Ok, this is just my high level opinion. Every application has it's own variables...but my thumb guage is that Dino oils do a better job lubing the bottom end. Synthetics do a better job lubing the top end. Synthetics generally are designed to take more heat before losing effectiveness. Bottom ends aren't really heat impacted as much as a head, and are generally more work and $ to replace. If you are a competitive racer on a budget, ya might try Golden Spectro...I had good experiences with it racing in Socal.

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honest question: how can you tell that?

its just they feel dry and they don't really feel lubed at all. But when I ran between 20:1-24:1, its just much more lubed and everything is decently covered in oil.

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You know the oil settles at the bottom of the cases when it isn't running, right?

yep. but i never had any down there running 32:1. I have found if you hurry up and take a topend apart within like an hour or 2 of riding while running 20:1-24:1 that theres still a decent amount of oil up in the topend.

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