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First Shootout: HuskyTE449, KTM 450EXC, Husaberg FE450 and BMW450X

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This from German online motorcycle publication motorradonline.de translated by Google translation tools.

Comparison Test: 450cc sports enduro

450cc four-sport enduro in comparison

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Revised and ready for the new season: BMW, Husaberg, Husqvarna and KTM

If two do the same, it is far from the same: While KTM tilled for years the scene of the second brand Husaberg, BMW increased the off-engagement with new signing Husqvarna. In particular, the new TE 449 enduro riders in the family brings explosive dispute.

In this article: KTM 450 EXC , FE 450 Husaberg , BMW G 450 X , Husqvarna TE 250/310/449/511

It's like in real life: Sometimes family still growing, sometimes very surprising. While KTM has been testing the acquisition of the Swedish hardcore Enduro forging Husaberg with the exiled Sweden deliberately unconventional technical approaches, the relationship between BMW and Husqvarna is complicated dar. finally opened up the opportunity in 2007 to buy the off-road specialist Husqvarna directly during the upcoming launch of the G 450 X. Within the family, the situation remains so tense. The G 450 X is selling slowly, Husqvarna urgently needs a successor for the aging 450th annual TE The result: the BMW remains technically unchanged in the program, Husqvarna took over the brand-new middle-class enduro, TE 449, originally for Bayern at Kymco in Taiwan produced single.

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BMW Husaberg Husqvarna KTM 450 EXC FE 450 G 450 X TE 250/310/449/511 Enduro

The two couples roll now be tested from the motorcycle transporter. The wedding rings are stripped off long ago. For off-road freak whose only qualities are as a single. Advance of the personality test: What's new?

KTM 450 EXC: a slightly transparent tank for better control of the fuel gauge and standard hand guards.

Husaberg FE 450: tighter suspension tuning, a fork with a closed-cartridge damping system in the steering head area and a rigid chassis.

BMW G 450 X: no changes to the model 2011th

Husqvarna TE 449: The inherited from the BMW engine (modified mapping and timing, six-place five-speed transmission, hydraulic clutch) is sitting in a completely newly designed steel-frame bridge. adopted by BMW was the coaxial arrangement of arm pivot point and chain pinion. To tension the hollow shaft through the gear to avoid going through a pivot pin in the motor housing, aluminum swingarm rotates add two under mounted short stub axle.

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The quasi vertically mounted engine became a trademark for the Husaberg Enduro.

It is serious. Three totally different tracks, an abandoned coal mine, a rocky enduro area and a sandy motocross track form, from all the bandwidth used between the modern motocross-based Cross Country and Enduro traditional sports. Even Didi Lacher, sporting a highly decorated motocross and off-base tester at MOTORCYCLE aware of the urgency of the situation. It is only secondary attention to the family honor. Rather, the success of the new TE decide the future of the currently operated as enthusiastic reboots for Husqvarna.

Helmets on, warm up on the set course of liquid coal waste dump. The frequency of the intermediate shaft singing recalls that the crankshaft of the engine, the BMW and Husky reverse. Very directly tackle the units on, hammer brawny forward from idling speed. Subjectively, one would the massive singles as 50 or even 100 cc more displacement trust. Wherein the revised mapping and the revised timing of the driveability of the Husqvarna do noticeable good. Above all, the lively departure as well as the greater revving evidence of the additional development work in Italy.

At the opposite end of the scale moves the Husaberg aggregate. Fine, so buttery soft spoken at the cylinder and is fantastically easy dosage. High-speed performances, however, are not the thing of the unconventional unit. With high speeds, the mountain has difficulties, will be shifted up rather early.

Exactly in the gap between the Husky / BMW duo and the Husaberg, KTM is squeezed. Or to put it positively: the Austrian combines the best of both worlds. The revs still good modulation, the EXC-propellant is from the middle speed his job with verve, turns ruckzuck and free high and ultimately convinces a barely beatable universality.

Edited by HuskyRips

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Italian Chic: the successful lines of the TE 449 demonstrated self-conscious autonomy.

Which manifests itself here in the pitch-black ground and chassis side. Whether straits or long turns, the KTM is satisfied, there are agile, neutral controls and displays in every situation well balanced. In short, one notes the Austrian years of fine-tuning of that approach. Speaking of concept: your motor-side alignment is the Husaberg also true in chassis. The tighter the turns, the more easily does the exiled Swede, can play in the tangled terrain thrown into the corners. The price for the agility with their stresses slightly nervous Front wants the mountain are held on fast, bumpy straights firmly on course.

A problem that BMW also knows, in contrast to the narrow turf Husaberg rehabilitate but can not. The G 450 X looks a bit unruly, in many situations to front-heavy. One reason for this is the strikingly high drag torque (engine brake) of the drive, which met the Husky engineers in their own way. When the throttle the engine will run on for a moment with increased speed in order subsequently to fall to the normal idle speed level. To change this characteristic is not mechanically, but can only be influenced by an intervention in engine management. In fast corners of the animated shows its positive effect. The front will stay up, the driving behavior largely neutral.

When braking into tight corners, however, to interfere with the unwanted thrust that pushes the front wheel again and again over the targeted residents out. As a consolation, the Husky has retained a character of its Bavarian-parallel model, the sensational grip on the front wheel. How to track the TE runs its course, even without residents, bites with the front part literally into the ground. One characteristic that is only surpassed by her stern. Whether shes on slippery ground acceleration or sharp edges, the rear of the Husky on the ground, the pilot calls the recalibration of previously familiar acceleration points. According to whether the details of Husqvarna engineers compared to the BMW nearly doubled torsional stiffness of the frame, the modified design of the pivot pin or other things explain this ability is another matter. The term defines the traction TE least new.

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Pioneer: stainless steel frame, coaxial swingarm pivot, tank in the rear - an unusual technique of BMW.

Even after the change of location in the rocky terrain enduro. Whether slip roads with loose stones or wet rocks, the Husky rumbles inexorably upwards. Demanded by the driver any more, but to keep in the saddle. Do the rest of the Stoic engine and the soft suspension. No comparison to her on the ground much less efficient, coordinated and also harder on the motor side rupp term German sister. The Concours d'Elegance takes this situation, the Husaberg for themselves. As with a trial machine, lift the front wheel can play on the stairs, lift the entire bike with short bursts of throttle to the top while the sensitive suspension grip also supported. A strong fine motor skills are needed in these cases on the KTM. Anyone playing with gas and clutch controls are not perfect, which the spinning rear wheel ratchets ruckzuck unfounded on the rocks. Who is master of the situation, which it would like to thank the Austrian once more with their most lively and agile appearance.

Which brings it to the motocross track runs up to top form. With huge reserves to fear suspension and excellent power delivery needs EXC not even here full-fledged cross-bikes. Your Enduro ladies certainly not. While the BMW here at last benefiting from its tight suspension and generous space, the Husaberg has to withdraw from tabletops and berms. The softly tuned suspension and low-revving, in the upper rpm range rather brave engine send a clear message: Not with me. Also, the Husky would like to turn back into the undergrowth. With the comfortable setting of the stresses Kayaba-spring elements is only one aspect of their detention. Not only that said idle increase when braking close to annoying return of the cross-track, the springs can TE especially in handling.

Edited by HuskyRips

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How unglamorous technology, balanced with lots of experience. At KTM, we know how it goes.

Subjectively, the difference appears to lightest of the test field, the 114-pound KTM significantly larger than five kilograms. And the terrain as the grip-enhancing front-orientation is reversed in motocross. The front feels heavy, can only painfully raise over edges. Critical is the situation in deep sand waves, where the Husky holds only under great price. A phenomenon that affects the BMW still a great extent and the cause is therefore looking to possibly as much as 25 degrees forwards or backwards inclined cylinder rotating crankshaft. Whatever the case, think of the cross-section of the TE respectful distance, remembers well with new technology completely on the enduro riders tradition all its predecessors.

Or, to return to family life: While KTM and Husaberg cover the harmonious coexistence of the entire bandwidth of the Enduro segment, should the crisis in the Bavarian-Italian relations are inevitable. Compared to the superior in all criteria Husqvarna sees the BMW pale. Not augur well for sustained cooperation.

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Different approaches have not yet equal to the four Enduros not so.

Max Score 250 points

1st place: KTM 450 EXC 208 points

Whether Motocross, Enduro and Cross Country - no other bike shines with such a strong universality. An undisputed winner.

2nd: Husaberg FE 450 197 points

Those who speak of Enduro, speaks of the Husaberg. Excellent handling, sensitive tuning of chassis and engine - the FE ensures the fine manners in the undergrowth.

2nd: Husqvarna TE 449 197 points

Those who speak of Enduro, also speaks of Husqvarna. Traction is the magic word with which the TE convinced - and so is maintaining the brand tradition seamlessly.

4th place: BMW G 450 X 183 points

It is difficult for only two years old Bavarian. Her colleagues show either handy, traction or more refined - or the same all along.

Offroad-rating

Category Engine:

Great controllability and good starting performance features of the Husky engine - even when the subject occupies nearly peak power of the KTM. The hand remains relatively large force for the clutch on the BMW and Husqvarna.

Winner Motor: Husqvarna / KTM

Category Chassis:

The sluggish handling is undoubtedly the Achilles heel of BMW and Husqvarna dar. Sensible enough, yet equipped with enough reserves: The suspension of the KTM.

Winner Chassis: KTM

Other Category:

The Husaberg convinced with great details, the maintenance of the Husky is cumbersome.

Other winners: KTM

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unless my interpretation of the translation is wrong, it didn't sound all that great for the TE..?

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Comparison Test: 450cc sports enduro (Part 3)

Data and measurements

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The current chart of the 450 sports enduro.

As expected in the very specific field test, the performance curves differ only slightly. Nevertheless, the characters differ greatly in practice. Aggressive displays, the KTM, pulling power, the BMW and Husky, Husaberg the meek.

BMW G 450 X

The BMW G 450 X

Motor

Type Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine with four valves per cylinder

Valve Train dohc

Bore x Stroke 98 x 59,6 mm

Capacity 449 cm ³

Compaction 12

Performance 38.0 kW (52 hp) at 9300/min

Fuel system Injection

Diameter 46 mm

Courses 5

Suspension

Framework Bridge frame made of stainless steel pipe

Fork Marzocchi

Guide tube 45 mm

Shock Öhlins

Weight 117 kg

Price without charges 8500 €

Husaberg FE 450

The Husaberg FE 450

Motor

Type Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine with four valves per cylinder

Valve Train ohc

Bore x Stroke 95 x 63.4 mm

Capacity 449 cm ³

Compaction 11,8

Performance 35.4 kW (48 hp) at 9900/min

Fuel system Injection

Diameter 42 mm

Courses 6

Suspension

Framework Einschleifenrahmen steel pipe

Fork WP Suspension

Guide tube 48 mm

Shock WP Suspension

Weight 116 kg

Price without charges 9095 €

Husqvarna TE 449

The Husqvarna TE 449

Motor

Type Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine with four valves per cylinder

Valve Train dohc

Bore x Stroke 98 x 59,6 mm

Capacity 449 cm ³

Compaction 12

Performance 37,6 kW (51 hp) at 8700/min

Fuel system Injection

Diameter 46 mm

Courses 6

Suspension

Framework Bridge frame made of tubular steel

Fork Kayaba

Guide tube 48 mm

Shock Kayaba

Weight 119 kg

Price without charges 8799 €

KTM 450 EXC

The KTM 450 EXC

Motor

Type Water-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke engine with four valves per cylinder

Valve Train ohc

Bore x Stroke 95 x 63.4 mm

Capacity 449 cm ³

Compaction 11,9

Performance 38.7 kW (53 hp) at 9400/min

Fuel system Carburetor

Diameter 39 mm

Courses 6

Suspension

Framework Einschleifenrahmen steel pipe

Fork WP Suspension

Guide tube 48 mm

Shock WP Suspension

Weight 114 kg

Price without charges 8645 €

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unless my interpretation of the translation is wrong, it didn't sound all that great for the TE..?

Well for one it's google translation tools so the translation is kind of funny.

And 2... the TE449 wasn't even on the drawing board a year ago. The whole 449 and 511 project happened in less than a year and it did tie with the Husaburg FE450 which was three years in the making.

I think that alone is pretty good. :thumbsup:

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unless my interpretation of the translation is wrong, it didn't sound all that great for the TE..?

First off they tested a plated bike (the TE instead of the TXC) against non plated bikes. The TXC should be lighter and better off road as they have been in the past. With that said IMHO the husky did GREAT. Equaled the points of the well respected Berg in the very first outing. So it is for sure on par with the best right now with no years of refinement. The motor sounds like it is VERY good as i have been reading from our European customer friends. My early assessment that the 449 will be Berg like seems spot on. This is a good thing as I LOVE the new Bergs. I can hardly wait for my 449/511 to get here.

Edited by Ride

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....like I said, maybe my interpretation of the translation was off...apparently it is? you guys sure get your feathers ruffled rather quickly....

Edited by DEMI

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First off they tested a plated bike (the TE instead of the TXC) against non plated bikes.

Ride I usually agree with you but...............

Take another look remembering these are Euro models. I believe they all are plated for street use in Europe, the Husky being the only bike in the test not sporting turn signals.

Bruce

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Ride I usually agree with you but...............

Take another look remembering these are Euro models. I believe they all are plated for street use in Europe, the Husky being the only bike in the test not sporting turn signals.

Bruce

you may be right. Hard to tell. The only Berg with a plate in the states is the 570.

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....like I said, maybe my interpretation of the translation was off...apparently it is? you guys sure get your feathers ruffled rather quickly....just for the record, I am on board for the TC version.

Whose has got ruffled feathers? Just talking about a bike.

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Ride I usually agree with you but...............

Take another look remembering these are Euro models. I believe they all are plated for street use in Europe, the Husky being the only bike in the test not sporting turn signals.

Bruce

Correct, the model designations correlate to a dual sport bike within each of the manufacturers line-up.

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Remember this statement?

quote, "What's my take on the new 2011 449 and 511 models? I think they're going to set a new benchmark on how all the other open class 4-strokes are measured. "

I guess if you measure all the bikes from last place? The BMW (first gen 449)is dead so last place is pretty good for the 449. Wow! They built a better BMW. Not hard to do and pretty much what I predicted. Maybe next year they can find a way to get rated even lower so guys here can find them even more impressive?

I anxiously await further tests and shootouts so I can read how the worst bike in a comparison is actually the winner. :thumbsup:

Crank up the speed on the spin machine!

"The sun was in their eyes"

"I don't think they slept well the night before they designed it"

"The evil trade unions made it fail"

"The testers hate Italy"

"Bla bla bla"

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I guess if you measure all the bikes from last place? The BMW (first gen 449)is dead so last place is pretty good for the 449. Wow! They built a better BMW.....

I anxiously await further tests and shootouts so I can read how the worst bike in a comparison is actually the winner. :thumbsup:

Crank up the speed on the spin machine!

That's some funny stuff right there. I don't honestly get the bond some of these guys get to a trade name. There's nothing Swedish, or old world Husky, in these Italian designed and built bikes. And BMW has already made these 2011 bikes completely different from the 2010's and older. Virtually everything.

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They can take comfort that the bike closer to actually being a Swedish Husky, the Husaberg, took 2nd!

I "get it" and so do you Tony, but we don't have any financial interest in these bikes selling so we can look at em a bit more objectively perhaps?

See you guys when the next "real" test or shootout is released!

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And 2... the TE449 wasn't even on the drawing board a year ago. The whole 449 and 511 project happened in less than a year and it did tie with the Husaburg FE450 which was three years in the making.

I think that alone is pretty good. :thumbsup:

Funny how people think just because a bike has a new frame and or motor it should be considered starting over. Last I know Husky has had a 450 for many years and if the new models are not #1, don’t make excuses why. Husky just like all other makers have the chance to build a bike to be #1. If they don’t then they don’t. I am a fan of huskies but let's face it, the better bikes for that day were #1 & 2!

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you and a few others get ruffled Kelly...or get tense pretty quickly when something other than glowing remarks are written. These translated reports haven't been super clear to me, what about the other translated text from the World Enduro scene or whatever that appeared to say people weren't to high on the bike or something like that...confusing to say the least. I will wait for your feedback and others before saying to much more I suppose. Kinda comical in a way.

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Funny how people think just because a bike has a new frame and or motor it should be considered starting over. Last I know Husky has had a 450 for many years and if the new models are not #1, don’t make excuses why. Husky just like all other makers have the chance to build a bike to be #1. If they don’t then they don’t. I am a fan of huskies but let's face it, the better bikes for that day were #1 & 2!

The Husqvarna TE450 tied for second with the Husaburg FE450!... Remember the Husaburg FE450 was the bike the motorcycle press was calling the next best thing to sliced bread a year ago when it was released. .... Funny how quick people forget.

Personally what that test tells me is that everything is pretty close when you're talking 450s.

JustSayen

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you and a few others get ruffled Kelly...or get tense pretty quickly when something other than glowing remarks are written. These translated reports haven't been super clear to me, what about the other translated text from the World Enduro scene or whatever that appeared to say people weren't to high on the bike or something like that...confusing to say the least. I will wait for your feedback and others before saying to much more I suppose. Kinda comical in a way.

I got (get) ruffled over Jims stupid comments and continuous negativity and speculation. In this post I saw no ruffled feathers until Jim stopped by to stir the pot. The bike tied with The Berg which in my book was the bike to beat so I'm happy with this first year effort. If they refine it slightly it should be better than the Berg and maybe better than the KTM. At this point it seems it is a very good starting point. Thats all. I LOVED the FE390 (and the 450/570) Bergs and if this bike is equally as good as this test would indicate and the cost I believe is over the thousand less I say we have a winner. Also this bike is street legal in the USA where only the 570 Berg is. So my prediction is this bike would be very Berg like was spot on and as it is cheaper (and sexier IMHO) and street legal I see nothing but a win for husky.

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