Bar risers??

Hi guys, I'm really tall and seem to slouch a lot when standing up on the bike. I bought some bar risers, but after talking with an enduro pro he told me that I shouldn't use them since they reduce front end grip when cornering. So i didn't install them and now ride sitting down 80% of them. Thing is, I still have the bar risers lying around and I'm debating whether or not i should give them a chance.

Does anyone like them? thanks

i use them on all of my bikes. both the, generic universal type of tusk risers from pitposse and the taller bar mounts used for the underbar scotts' stabilizer, have their place. they will change the handling characteristics to a degree. but, for some of us taller folk i think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. if you already have them in your posession then why not give them a shot? you can always ebay them if you change your mind.

I would say use them. 2 inches is going to make a world of difference in your comfort and will impact front end grip minimally.

What brand do you have? I have used Moose (50mm risers) and Tusk brand. Of course best bang is going to be getting a higher bend handlebar.

How do bar risers affect front end grip? :thumbsup:

I was thinking about using the taller of the 3 bar mount heights offered by BRP for their top clamps (around 1/2"-2/3" above stock I think). Dunno if these would qualify as bar risers anyway. Anybody got any input on what the theory is?

Imagine hunching your body over the front end of your motorcycle. This hunching over lowers the center of your body's gravity and positions the weight onto the front end of the bike. If you raise the bars, you ever so slightly take some of that weight up and away from the front end of the bike, thus lowering grip in the turns. I dont think you will notice a difference unless you are a pro level rider, or you are standing up while you are riding and riding on very slick, flat gravel road.

How tall was the guy that told you not to use them? :thumbsup:

I have used the universal TUSK style, but I prefer the Rox style that also allow you to move the bars forward. So, if your bars are two inches higher and two inches farther forward, how does THAT affect the traction on the front end? :blah:

http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/cart/showitems.cgi?subcat_id=268

Ok, That's what I was kinda thinking might be going on. In my case at least, I'm planning on moving the bar forward along with up, so that will probably offset any rearward weight shift from raising them 1/2"..

Thanks for the info mikesbaron.:thumbsup:

How tall was the guy that told you not to use them? :thumbsup:

I have used the universal TUSK style, but I prefer the Rox style that also allow you to move the bars forward. So, if your bars are two inches higher and two inches farther forward, how does THAT affect the traction on the front end? :blah:

http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/cart/showitems.cgi?subcat_id=268

From a roadraicng point of view, 2 inches in change can have a drastic affect on traction and center of bike's gravity-the way it handles and grips. Think about how much you weigh. Then think about shifting your body weight 2-3 inches and you just moved 100 lbs from the center of your bike to the front or side or vice versa. And you can see exactly how a small shift in body weight can affect grip and handling.

From a roadraicng point of view, 2 inches in change can have a drastic affect on traction and center of bike's gravity-the way it handles and grips. Think about how much you weigh. Then think about shifting your body weight 2-3 inches and you just moved 100 lbs from the center of your bike to the front or side or vice versa. And you can see exactly how a small shift in body weight can affect grip and handling.

Okay, so the question stands: if you move the bars two inches UP and two inches FORWARD, how does that impact the traction on the front end?

I really think you won't notice a difference, even less than if you went to a straight up higher bar without the move forward like you are doing.

Again though, I don't think 80% of the riders would be able to discern a difference in traction from a 2 inch diff in rise of a handlebar and it's affect on front end weight distribution...traction.

Now again, all the above assuming you are standing when riding. You sit down and it changes the weight to traction dynamics all over again and you would be hard pressed to notice any change in traction from a handlebar change since your weight is already lowering the center of gravity by the nature of sitting down.

Hi guys, I'm really tall and seem to slouch a lot when standing up on the bike. I bought some bar risers, but after talking with an enduro pro he told me that I shouldn't use them since they reduce front end grip when cornering. So i didn't install them and now ride sitting down 80% of them. Thing is, I still have the bar risers lying around and I'm debating whether or not i should give them a chance.

Does anyone like them? thanks

I am also tall! I use them on my 300 and really like them. It wont hurt anything to put them on and give them a try. It only takes afew minutes to put on and off. And if the bike is newer, than you probably have several adjustments points on the triple clamps.:thumbsup:

I have these on my 250X, and I noticed a huge difference in handling. I was able to stand longer, therefore, increased speed in the rough stuff, and even able to stand in really tight areas where you are basicly wiggling the bars through trees. I am usually sitting for sitting for most turns, and did not notice loss of grip.

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I have these on my 250X, and I noticed a huge difference in handling. I was able to stand longer, therefore, increased speed in the rough stuff, and even able to stand in really tight areas where you are basicly wiggling the bars through trees. I am usually sitting for sitting for most turns, and did not notice loss of grip.

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Wow! How high are those? I have a set a EE on mine and they said not to go over 30mm. Those look like 100mm.....LOL

# Outlaw racing bar risers will allow you to add from 3/4" to 1-1/2" overall height to handlebars

1.5 inches = 38.1 millimeters.

im 6 foot 6 to 7" and i cant stand up without them! My best skill on a bike is cornering and have never had a problem with them being raised 30mm from E&E

this is a no brainer, i think your over thinking it (i do the same thing too) if your sitting down 80% of the time now then who cares if your weight isnt perfectly balanced, at least you will be standing more and sitting less and moving closer to the ideal position...

its a easy swap out if you dont like em so why not test em.

For those that may be wanting to add some height to your stock handlebar clamps (7/8 inch) and at the same time go to the 1 1/8 inch fat bars; I recommend these Moose risers.

2007-Moose-Racing-Universal-Handlebar-Clamp-Kit.jpg

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/192/5118/ITEM/Moose-Racing-Universal-Handlebar-Clamp-Kit.aspx?SiteID=SLI|Handlebar%20Adapter&WT.MC_ID=10010

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I have them on my Honda Transalp. 60mm rise along with adapting you to the fatter bars. Add a higher or lower bend bar of your choice and you got affordable customization.

I wish a company would make risers that go forward and up that bolt to the triple clamp in place of the stock bar mounts, instead of the flimsy ones that just bolt to the lower bar mounts. I dont see why that would be so hard, I would buy them.

You mean like these? risers3.jpg

http://www.amotostuff.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=X102B&Category_Code=klv1000_hand_cont

I know there are a few other options besides these, hopefully others will post up.

Or these which could easily be switched to move the bar forward.

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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sportouring.com/itemImages/image/f800st_50mm_riser.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sportouring.com/part.php%3FitemGroup%3D299%26bikeModel%3DF800ST&usg=__0G1hrcltX0BTzEpCqiMqwWrRq9o=&h=299&w=450&sz=63&hl=en&start=76&zoom=1&tbnid=rALPUpRsR2ixVM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=178&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGenMar%2Bhandlebar%2Brisers%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7TSHB_en___US348%26biw%3D1345%26bih%3D603%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=343&ei=5AIdTaeBOYa0sAP84vHcAg&oei=rAIdTb2vCJOWsgP__bGJCg&esq=5&page=5&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:76&tx=91&ty=104

BarRisers.jpg

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