I currently ride an 01 Gasgas 300 and it is not bad. It does sign early and suspension is dated. From best I can tell the 450 is going to be a smidge lighter and cheaper to work on even considering it is a 4 stroke. My basic question is how hard is this thing going to be to start when I dump it while riding in the woods? The GasGas for all its flaws does start fairly reliably. Beyond that I think the 450 will make a great woods bike. My plan is to cut the bars down, put bark busters on, FWW...as big as I can get. I MAY get a lexx silencer but that is not for certain. I will get a kickstand though.