start in second or third?

When starting on an 85 should you put it in second or first. If you put it in second, then thats one less shift. But if you put it in first, it will accelerate faster. What should i do?

I've been told its better to not have to worry about mis shifting into neutral but I'm also new to dirt bikes so I may be wrong

Second and use the clutch. First is such a small gear all your going to do is spin, to hard to moderate first with the clutch. Plus you run the chance of hitting neutral.

thanks and how much throttle should i give when i stage. like half or three quarters

what you're asking differs for every rider

While i agree on starting in 2nd as 1st is a waste of a gear (my opinion).

Things like these are different to a riders preference,

for example, I like 2nd gear while only having my right foot down, this means my left foot is on the shifter to get third quickly.

But what I like may be someone else's pet peeve, they could start third with both feet on the ground.

Take a practice day and find what works better for you.

As for the revs, enough that you wont bog or die when the clutch is released.

But not too much that you'll just spin and have exhausted all of 2nd gear getting off the line

You'll find that "point" in the throttle :thumbsup: good luck!

thanks guys ill keep all this in mind when i get to the track

What gear you start in depends on 3 things; The gearing of your bike (front and rear sprocket sizes), the bike's HP and your body weight.

Starts are sort of like gun fighting. A gun fighter has to be quick on the draw but at the same time he has to be smooth and have a good aim in order to hit the target before the target hits him. In motocross you also have to be quick and at the same time you have to be smooth with your clutch and throttle control and your body movements. If you mess up at least you won’t get shot but you may get run over in the first corner.

There are three important aspects of the start. The single most important aspect of the start is the clutch. Excellent clutch control is the key. The other two aspects are throttle control and body movements. Let’s look at each one separately and all the detailed techniques that go with them.

Following are all the techniques that go into clutch control.

You have to hold onto the grip and control the clutch independently. This is true for when you’re riding on the track as well, but for the start clutch control is even more important then when riding on the track. Therefore I teach using your three outside fingers on the clutch while you hold onto the grip with your index finger. This way your three outside fingers will allow you to have good strong clutch control while your index finger can pull your body position forward as you shoot out of the gate. If you didn’t use any fingers on the grip you couldn’t pull and hold yourself forward. Or if you only used one finger on the clutch you wouldn’t have good strong clutch control for a perfect start.

With your three outside fingers on the clutch pull the clutch in and select first or second gear. Then let the clutch out until it just starts to engage. Then pull it back in just the slightest bit under engagement. This is where you want to hold the clutch. This way it will begin to engage as soon as you start letting it out. With this clutch setting technique you will know that the bike is in gear and your clutch will be set and ready, not too far out and not too far in, but just right for the real thing hole shot. It’s very important to control the clutch all the way out. Don’t just start slipping it out then let it go. And don’t release the clutch in a jerky motion. When done correctly it’s just one controlled smooth release all the way out. You are pretty much holding the throttle in one position according to traction and feeding the power to the rear wheel with the clutch. You see, when you feed the power to the rear wheel with the clutch the response is instant. If you rely on the throttle the power has to go through the carburetor and the response at the rear wheel can be delayed and not as actuate. Even after you are pretty far out of the gate, if the front wheel starts to raise slip the clutch a bit to bring it back down. Control the clutch all the way out at all times during the start.

There are usually ruts behind and in front of the gate. Make sure you are lined up straight in the rut. If you are a little crocked or the rear wheel is not all the way down in the center of the rut you are going to get sideways and loose a lot of time right from the get go. It helps to prepare the rut before you set your bike in there. Kick the dirt around and make it smooth and packed. Build up a little ramp at the front of the rut where it meets the gate so you get better traction as you spin over the gate.

While seated in the proper position, grab the handlebars with a lot of over grip. This is important so you can keep your upper body open and work from over the handlebars not behind them. This will allow you to get more of your body weight up and over the front of the bike enabling you to keep the front end down more effectively. This open body position will also give you better leverage for moving your body position from side to side across the handlebars, which will give you the control to keep the bike going straight out of the start. This body position will also give you better leverage factors between your body and the motorcycle. If you fail to do this and start with a low grip you will have less control.

If you want the entire scenario check out my Vol II DVD # 2 (How To Win Starts). It has all the starting techniques in it and is currently on sale for 63% off. See a free preview and/or order online at;

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