I didn't get much input from my inquiry about experience with the Troy Lee Designs version of these braces on another forum, so ... Has anyone had any experience with the black version of the Catalyst X from VQ Orthocare? I understand the only difference is the color and name on them. You'd be surprised what the VQO version lists for. Let's just say you'd better have a prescription for them from an orthopedic specialist AND have you insurance deductible paid up. Any experience with these out there?