Hey guys, new member. I own an 04 wr450 and im planning on buying a 2008+ 450 mx bike in fall or next spring. Ive been looking at all brands but mostly honda and yamaha. Honda because of its good rep and yamaha because I never had problems with my wr (not saying the other brands are bad). Because I am not a pro I probably coudnt tell a big if any difference in power. Anyway, today I took a buddies CRF 450 for a spin and it was a blast. however after stalling it, I coudnt restart it and pushed it back to the owner who cranked for what I thought was long until it ran. it seemed he thought it was normal. (maybe I have been spoiled with my bikes easy starting.) So, Do mx bikes just all start a bit harder or are hondas known for this? long story but I wanna get as much info on a future purchase as possible, thanks.