Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  

Should I go 22.5 offset or stay stock?

Recommended Posts

Buying a set of triple clamps and can't decide between the 22.5 offset and the stock offset. I know the 22.5 will make me turn better but I race alot of sand tracks like Southwick and I really dont want the front end jack knifing there for me. Bikes an 06 125, thanks in advanced. :smirk:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would do 22.5 if you are planning on reworking your forks with them in mind. Otherwise, no. The stock forks will jacknife with 22.5 amd you'll hate them. Revalved.....they are excellent in sand.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would do 22.5 if you are planning on reworking your forks with them in mind. Otherwise, no. The stock forks will jacknife with 22.5 amd you'll hate them. Revalved.....they are excellent in sand.

But, if you plan to have Davej or someone like him do his thing, I believe 22.5 is the way to go. I have no idea exactly what helped it as he sent so many other parts to do the revalve. I THINK it was possibly a change that let the forks dive less under braking, or while cornering.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i don't ride a yz but i have swaped triple clamps on 3 honds from 24mm to 20mm and i have loved every one of them. What i have found is with the extra turning i can run more sag and still turn better. by running more sag it will help with the jack knife or tucking under in tight turns and help blitz the whoops with the rear being lower. i would try them and if it fells unstable or jack knifes just take a couple turn off the preload rear spring. I just bought a set of nice pro taper accu track or something like that for $239 with free shiping from Mxsouth Ebay site. It included top, bottom, steam, bearing, cable guide, new bearing race, and 4 differant density mounts 3 rubber and 1 solid. Go for it!!!!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yeah I have my sag set at like 95 due to my suspension guys suggestions. I'm on the fence about it, I found that pro taper set which is the one I was going ot get. For 200 shipped it seemed liek a good deal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm a little confused. The only 22.5's I see in that link are 125 and 250F triples. And teh only thing they have for the YZ250 is a top triple. I'm assuming those 22.5's match up to the 05-09 YZ250?

Thanks guys.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I'm a little confused. The only 22.5's I see in that link are 125 and 250F triples. And teh only thing they have for the YZ250 is a top triple. I'm assuming those 22.5's match up to the 05-09 YZ250?

Thanks guys.

The stem is longer on the 250 2t and 450, not alot but enough that they wont fit, perhaps the have sold out of that version?

The 450 complete kit would fit the 250 2T

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So you could buy the 125/250f clamps and just press in your stock 250t stem, correct?

Thanks guys.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
So you could buy the 125/250f clamps and just press in your stock 250t stem, correct?

Thanks guys.

Correct :smirk:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
...Bike's an 06 125...
The 125s don't seem to be bothered by the 'relaxed' turning that affects the 250s, so the change to a 22.5 clamp may be a bit too much. :smirk:

But for that price, it would give you a nice tuning option. :smirk:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At 95mm you may be making the condition you describe worse by placing more down force on the forks it is going to cause the forks to knife more. All of the force from 95mm will have enough wieght on the front that when you go to turn and the rear unloads it causing the front to drop into the stroke (sand makes it worse) and knifing when what needs to be done is actually unload the rear some stiffen up the forks. That should stop the forks from droping into the travle making the bike stinckbug and being hard to handle the front. I ride off road and have alot of the same problem because i run my forks soo soft, so to counter this i run more sag and learn to ride more to the rear of the back of the bike and if need the extra turning use different tripple clamp. All your suspenion guy can do is recommend what he thinks will work and it might for 95% of the people but some people need something different so that's when testing can be the best thing you can do. Check the stars on tv out, the top ones has thier rear end setting alittle lower in the read than say the 10th place and on up. Ricky even talked about it on one of the supercross races about having the rear setting down into the stroke and how much better the bike reacted and handle. I say get the tripple clamps and start with about 105mm of sag and go from there and you will be happy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

sorry guys, but one more fitment question. The only 22.5 set I'm finding for less than $400 is via that link and they're 08/09 125/250f triples. Other than pressing in my 05 stem what else will I need to fit them? I'm assuming the longer front axle from an 06+ yz250? I'm not worried about the number plate fitting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
sorry guys, but one more fitment question. The only 22.5 set I'm finding for less than $400 is via that link and they're 08/09 125/250f triples. Other than pressing in my 05 stem what else will I need to fit them? I'm assuming the longer front axle from an 06+ yz250? I'm not worried about the number plate fitting.
Your front axle should work. Assemble the front end with it and decide for youself before running out and getting a different one.

I thought your bike is a 125? Those 250F clamps should fit right on -- no need to swap stems.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nope, not me. I've got an 05 250, but I believe the thread starter has a 125.

Thanks guys!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Nope, not me. I've got an 05 250, but I believe the thread starter has a 125.

Thanks guys!

Whoops! Sorry. I missed the change up. :smirk:

:smirk:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
sorry guys, but one more fitment question. The only 22.5 set I'm finding for less than $400 is via that link and they're 08/09 125/250f triples. Other than pressing in my 05 stem what else will I need to fit them? I'm assuming the longer front axle from an 06+ yz250? I'm not worried about the number plate fitting.

see if this will fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pro-Taper-22-5MM-OFFSET-TRIPLE-CLAMP-Yamaha-YZ-125-8-11-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2ebacd46QQitemZ400215952710QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That ebay item is actually the reason I was asking!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Reply with:

Sign in to follow this  

  • Similar Content

    • By Lone Danger
      Ok so I'm looking for opinions from those who have been on yz125s and 150 exc/xcw's and maybe the ktm 200's exc/xcw's. You gotta be out there.
      Here's the deal...I'm 5'7" 165lbs. A couple years back I was looking for a small bike for my wife to learn on and for me to play around with and race. Could only afford one bike. I got a '09 ktm 105 sx. Once I got it sprung for my weight it was great. I have been top five consistently in my local harescrambles B class, believe it or not. Ya, you were not the only ones shocked. And did pretty good in the local mx races as well, junior class up here in Canada. Lack of power was sometimes an issue but I learned to deal with it and just scream, scream, scream!
      However my wife is a complete beginner and she is scared of it. I have since moved her to a 4 stroke.
      Just got a mint '01 yz15 mid summer. Like less than 200 hrs! I have absolutely loved it on the mx track. Suspension is perfect and I love the extra power. I had planned to set it up for woods/mx with a suspension revalve. However, did a harescramble race a month ago that was really technical. Granted I have not done anything to the suspension minus clickers, had too much psi in the tires (13 front and 15 rear) (yes I know that's wonkey, I only had time to get a heavy duty tube in the front and had a stock tube in back. Less psi in the back would have been instant pinch flat because its so rocky) and it was running rich. I had to scream the thing to keep it running and even changed a plug mid race. Well I'm sure you can guess but it was the worst experience I have ever had on a motorcycle. The more open sections I passed a lot of people but the tech sections required way more effort than I liked and the suspension beat the hell out of me!!! Like my knees, wrists, and shoulders were just done. (I was out there for three hours).
      So keep in mind that I just came off a 105sx with suspension mods (set up for woods/mx). I have no problem slipping clutch and shifting precisely, yatta yatta. (I don't think the 105 would have done well here either due to even less power, however...) I've been second guessing fixing this 125 up for woods ever since I rode a friends '09 ktm 250xcw. I rode it on a local mx track. The power was just so effortless and I was absolutely floored by how the suspension worked. I never thought that I could hit the woops that hard and clear every jump on the track on an xcw and feel THAT good! It felt a lot heavier though, and I think the price tag on these things are going to be a stretch.
      So here's my question. I want the lightness of a 125, but want to be able to race both woods and mx. How does a 150 exc/xcw ENGINE compare to an mx 125 engine? I love the 125 engine, but more low end would be usefull in tech areas. But if there is not a huge difference, I will probably just revalve the yz for woods and go tubless, etc. The 150exc's are so expensive and I hardly ever even see one for sale unless its brand new. I don't want the weight of a 200/250/300. I barely touch the ground on a 125....so it has to at least be light. Is it worth waiting for a 150 engine? Thanks guys.
       
       
    • By doolan
      Hi guys I have a 2018 yz250 looking at changing springs front and rear I'm 200 pound ride b class moto.
      Having problems choosing spring weights using the calculators as mx tech say I need .45 fork springs and 5.2 rear but racetech say .48kg forks and 5.8kg rear.
      What are other bigger guys
    • By YamahaYz1
      Hey TT, I know there's endless topics on YZ250/ two stroke tuning in general but I have not been able to find one that helps me get my 09 YZ250 set up for my riding style and where I ride so I'm here asking for help. I got this bike around 1.5 years ago and have not known how to set it up properly. I know no one can give me a perfect set up but I'd like a good starting setup to work from and tweak to perfection. Throughout this time I've had this bike, its always been covering the bottom of the entire silencer and dripping all over the swing arm and rims with oil. Also, the joint between silencer and expansion pipe has oil around it too but I've heard I have to close the gap a little to squeeze the silencer a little tighter and stop the leakage there. I don't have too much experience messing with carbs but I've messed around with previous two strokes and tuned them a little better. I change the oil on my bike after 15-20 hours on it and clean and oil the air filter after almost every ride. The sparkplugs never last me more than a few months but recently have been lasting me no more than a few weeks. With the excess oil from the pipe and spark plug fouling you can see why I need to set my bike up to stop this. 
      The bike:
      Completely stock with V-Force 3 Reeds and a FMF Shorty silencer. 
      Usually running around 32:1 premix with 91 pump fuel because I prefer to keep it well lubricated instead of running rich.
      Riding:
      I ride enduro in Ontario, Canada. So mostly single track and some fire roads but nothing close to MX and not a lot of time wide open. Therefore, probably mostly 1/4-1/2 or 1/4-3/4 throttle range.
      Where I ride:
      Usually 0-500' above sea level. With temperatures ranging from around 15-35 degrees Celsius (55-95 Fahrenheit).
       
      If anyone can give me a setup to go from, that would be very much appreciated. Even multiple set ups for different temperature ranges or any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks and sorry for the long read, I just didn't want to leave anything out. Ask any questions if you have any, too.
    • By Goon Rides
      Hey guys... so I have a problem... I took the bike at Cal City, broke it in, and while I was doing so, the bike was bogging in first gear (Yes, first gear). Also it doesn't idle at all. I have to keep blipping it otherwise it'll stall. So I adjusted the screw circled in image 1. Well I was listening to the sound of the of the bike, yet the rpm's weren't increasing, and it was still stalling. So then, I unscrewed the screw in image 2, well I found out that it was fully twisted to the right. So then, I twisted it to the left, still nothing; it was still stalling... where's the idle screw? I am sure that the screw in image 1 is for the air/fuel mixture screw, and the screw in image 2 is the idle screw, just broken? I don't know, any and every help would be appreciated.


×