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whats yamaha have to do to the 450 to win motocrossaction shoot out

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09 frame, Current motor. Sub 230 pounds. Its a great bike and I love Yamaha but there are better 450's out of the box. They can all be set up to a riders liking, just ask JS7

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I guess mxa wants :

1. Loose some weight .

2. A little slimmer around the airbox

3. Better brakes.

4. A powerband that doesn't go flat on top. ( like most EFI bikes does these days)

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I guess mxa wants :

1. Loose some weight .

2. A little slimmer around the airbox

3. Better brakes.

4. A powerband that doesn't go flat on top. ( like most EFI bikes does these days)

And 1 tooth larger on the rear sprocket....:busted:

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And 1 tooth larger on the rear sprocket....:busted:

Probably ! :busted:

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Shootouts are ok for giving you a "what's new",but really who cares about others opinions,they aren't you.

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I would not be surprised ! But don't think mxa would do that... Seems to me like most of what they say in their tests actually are spot on

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The shootouts are all ridiculously subjective in the end. MXA's are maybe the most objective, and they do tinker with the bikes more than others as an owner would do, but I distinctly recall in '06 or '08 that the YZF turned in the best lap times of the lot by a significant amount, and yet finished second. WTH?

I got tired of the whole thing long ago. I'm not interested in their opinion in the least, and I don't care which one wins.

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The shootouts are all ridiculously subjective in the end. MXA's are maybe the most objective, and they do tinker with the bikes more than others as an owner would do, but I distinctly recall in '06 or '08 that the YZF turned in the best lap times of the lot by a significant amount, and yet finished second. WTH?

I got tired of the whole thing long ago. I'm not interested in their opinion in the least, and I don't care which one wins.

This^^^. A few test rider's opinions mean little to me. Before I buy a bike I'm not familiar with I search here for common issues/complaints/praise about the bike. We are the real test riders, not a bunch of spoiled pros that are used to riding highly modified bikes that are fine tuned to their specification.

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Sometimes they can be really petty, like complaining about a front tire!! If that is going to interfere with your decision on a bike you have problems! A tire is changed easily.... Why do they even mention it, focuss on something inherently wrong or bad

Also, they don't take other aspects into the decision, like reliability , if they looked at the whole package the yamaha would probably do much better, and with regard to the power going flat and bad brakes, these can easily be fixed, but something like suspension is difficult to get as good as the sss stuff on the yammie,

They should look at who is going to buy or race the bikes, the yammie is great from beginner to advanced, if you are a pro you will change a lot on any bike to your personal preference anyway,

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