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It is no longer a "Factory Team" they still get support from Suzuki and almost all the Factory team guys switched over to the Yosh team though. They also shut down the factory Suzuki GNCC team.

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It is no longer a "Factory Team" they still get support from Suzuki and almost all the Factory team guys switched over to the Yosh team though. They also shut down the factory Suzuki GNCC team.

Big bummer!!

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It's the 4 strokes fault :bonk: But seriously yeah that sux. The rest of the factories will probably follow suit in the next few years. :smirk:

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It's the 4 strokes fault :bonk: But seriously yeah that sux. The rest of the factories will probably follow suit in the next few years. :smirk:

Well the rest except for that pesky little Austrian company that seems to be clickig right along.

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Alrighty then perhaps the rest should follow suit with that pesky little Austrian company :smirk:

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Suzuki needs to make a tough decision...but if they play their cards right they could prosper.

They need to scrap the RMZ lines, and bring back the RM250 maybe in an aluminum RMZ250 frame. This will sell huge and do great in amature racing.

Then they need to develop a 150-200cc 2t and a 300-350cc 2t and petition the shit out of AMA to let them run them in 250/450 classes in pro racing...if AMA balks they need to completly pull out of pro racing untill AMA gives in.

Edited by Revelyell

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Well the rest except for that pesky little Austrian company that seems to be clickig right along.

Austrian? Don't you mean Austrian/Indian?

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Suzuki needs to make a tough decision...but if they play their cards right they could prosper.

They need to scrap the RMZ lines, and bring back the RM250 maybe in an aluminum RMZ250 frame. This will sell huge and do great in amature racing.

Then they need to develop a 150-200cc 2t and a 300-350cc 2t and petition the shit out of AMA to let them run them in 250/450 classes in pro racing...if AMA balks they need to completly pull out of pro racing untill AMA gives in.

Unfortunately you are wrong. To suggest that there are thousands of potential Suzuki 2t owners out there, that would drop everything and buy a "new" 2t is wrong. Anyone who wants a 2t...owns one. It is not like Yamaha and KTM make boat anchors. There is nothing ground breaking that Suzuki could do to a new RM250, that isn't already being done. So other than a few diehard fans of Yellow, the numbers just wouldn't justify the relaunch. And they would be humiliated if they made a big deal of a relaunch..only to repackage a clone of their last one.

You are correct in wishing for the return of the halcion days of the 70's and 80's, when gates were full of smokers...all gates of all classes...at every event. Nowadays the start gate sizes are dwindling...the amount of classes is dwindling...and the amount of tracks are dwindling. While cost are going through the roof. For track operator and rider alike.

In BC, where I am, they have begun to introduce schoolboy class that runs only 2t..as this is what these kids are used to, coming off and 80...and prior a 65 or something. Anything to slowly try and have classes of 2t that go-along with the standard skill related classes that are all running 4t. Now kids and parents can stay with a cheaper 2t until the kid is a teenager. Then he may stay on one when he rides the more traditional classes.

It has to be a bottom up movement. If we create the market with real sales numbers the bikes will continue to be produced.

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The AMA isn't going to go back to 2 strokes, at least on a pro level. They are pushing for the 4 strokes because the manufacturer who promised no more 2 strokes ever, owns the AMA. That is Honda.

You can still buy a brand new RM250, just not in the USA.

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Austrian? Don't you mean Austrian/Indian?

Hmmmmm? According to the facts...... :smirk: ....KTM Sportmotorcycle AG is an Austrian motorcycle, bicycle and moped manufacturer.

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Suzuki needs to make a tough decision...but if they play their cards right they could prosper.

They need to scrap the RMZ lines, and bring back the RM250 maybe in an aluminum RMZ250 frame. This will sell huge and do great in amature racing.

Then they need to develop a 150-200cc 2t and a 300-350cc 2t and petition the shit out of AMA to let them run them in 250/450 classes in pro racing...if AMA balks they need to completly pull out of pro racing untill AMA gives in.

Agreed.

They could also make a big push in the offroad racing world if they revived the 2 stroke.

You reading this Suzuki???? :smirk:

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"As of May 2011 Bajaj Auto holds a 39.03% stake...:

I just had to laugh. You lifted the very first sentence form Wiki...if you had read a little bit further you would have noticed how the Bajaj's initial stake in KTM as of 2005 was 14% and then jumped to 20% in 2007...It now resides close to triggering mandatory offers to buy the remaining shares. It will happen...the Indian economy is booming and they have alot more little zingers on the road than anybody. That will fuel lots of R&D for the KTM brand. Don't fight it. It is inevitable. :smirk:

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Don't worry the KTM name will never be used in India because the Kolkata Textiles Manufacture (KTM) is already listed on the New Delhi Stock exchange. :smirk:

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Makes me wonder if the loss of factory teams will eventually pull the current salaries of the riders down? Maybe private teams will have more control over the AMA and they may push for changes that could lead to better racing and even pull the 2t back in...

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All things change with time. Just the facts of life and there isn't a whole lot that one can do about it. Fortunately there are regime changes in all industry, people retire, or it gets passed on to someone else through some other way. That will bring along a change either for the good or the bad. either way, it does happen. I do see a resurgence of the two strokes from the big four other than yamaha. I see it happening because as the european brands get bigger and bigger they will keep producing 2t's because they perform the best and they know it. As these companies grow (mainly ktm, but husaberg and husky are coming up too) they will have a bigger stake in racing and more say in the organizations that run it. Ultimately this i feel will bring about the resurgence of two strokes.

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Kinda makes you wonder what value KTM sees in pouring money and an effort into a sport, SX or MX, that the others have lost faith in? Not that I can fault them in any way. We need all the focus from the manufactures point of view, that we can. But if the cynicism originating from Japan is any indication of the viability of the sport, then AMA needs pull its head out of its collective a$$es and think outside the box. Before bikes prices clear 10,000 new and parents and riders simply say enough is enough. "my bum hurts".

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