Just an observation...

Thats always been my assumption, I don't know why. Wadda ya got? Don't tell me I am going to have to come out there and see for myself. Describe one of your technical trails. Width, offcamber, rocks etc. Lets hear it.


Have you seen Rons "woods" video? How "wide" or "technical" is that trail. I grew up riding in California and now have ridden in the southern woods and now Pennsylvania.



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I can't speak for Colorado, but the trails in NW Oregon and Washington are east coast nasty much of the time. I wish I have a helmet cam to show you. Love those exposed tree roots on nasty, muddy, steep uphills!

It is muddy now, thats for sure. Come on over and play. Bill is gonna join me for the dry season, but if you like it muddy, Now is the time. I personally avoid as much mud as I can, but sometimes you have no options.

Mud is great has long as you are not following anyone. I love to wick the throttle out of corners with my new 756's! Mud slinger! Clean-up bites though.

[This message has been edited by Bryan Bosch (edited 04-20-2001).]

Brett, BOS, Come out to Colorado. We've got both! If you want wide open there's plenty of it. But we also have very tight, rocky, rooty trails. Sometimes you'll see MTB guys up there, but rarely. These are dirt bike trails!

There are two differences from yours to ours, though. Our trails are mostly dry and dusty. You don't slip, but it's hard to stay close or pass.

We also have SERIOUS vertical. There aren't too many trails that just casually roam through the rolling hills. We're talking fierce switchbacks with sheer drop offs and no soft ferns to land on. In an area we ride in summer called Redcone you could justifiably change jets during the loop - 7,000 to 12,500 above sea level.

Last year Milkman made the trip to ride with Bryan. Well, I guess he waxed Bryan riding in mud and roots in Missouri, but Bryan left them on one of our rolling trails. Milkman said it took a while to get used to riding off-camber switchback ledges looking over cliffs. :)

The only time we come across mud is crossing a beaver bog. It's usually flat and mossy with that real black stinky stuff. Fun to throw on the guys behind you, but bad to get stuck in!

Come out any time. We'd love to show you around.


thanks for inviting me too Jake! :)

Why is it that everyone in the east assumes that we don't have tight, wooded trails out west? :) I always hear that the WR is great out west where the terrain is wide open but the DRZ is so much better in the east with its tight, wooded trails. We don't have any trees in the Pacific NW. ;)Would I enjoy my dub-r more if I moved east?

I must be bored and I don't have anything else to say! :D

that's a good point. I have been thinking about moving to colorado in the next couple of years. i love riding in the tight, technical (mt bike singletrack) new england woods, would I still be able to ride similar terrain if I moved??? it would definitely be a factor in my decision on whether or not to move.


I have not been to Colorado, however, the trails in Oregon (West of the Cascade) are tight and technical with rocks, tree roots, mud, etc... I'd say Colorado has similar conditions (Western Colorado). You should have no shortage of info on Colorado as there are lots of TT members that live there. Thought about Fort Collins myself at one point.

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