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  1. Do you know what nitrogen pressure you were running?
  2. Shock's free piston? I would like to hear the story behind this....
  3. And not over-tighten the cap itself. Also pay attention in the caps rubber flange. When over tightened repeatedly it disintegrates.
  4. Ok, now we understand each other. I don't agree with your last sentence but this doesn't mean that we have to start a pissing match. 👍
  5. I play the game in your field (using your source). Now you do the maths. Compare post 2017 KTM with post 2018 Beta (so both have a Lithium battery). In my case, I can lift any of these bikes on my trailer or drag them back to trail (if I can't, then this means that I am injured). Still when I manhandle a KTM, while similar weight to my Beta however feels bulkier cause its bigger. And I just don't like orange on a bike......😎
  6. The 2-stroke Betas weight was always on par with KTMs (pds or link). Their 1-2 kg disadvantage was coming from some beefier parts like the swing arm, some over-engineered parts like rear fender's inner plastics and some accessories which are installed by the factory (like the 'upper' chain guide which should be removed before riding - is only there for euro type approval). Also Betas are coming std with a skid plate ('bout half kilo on 2Ts more the alu on 4Ts) while KTMs is available as an after market. Between the 350s, yes there is a difference but the KTM is based on the 250 chassis and engine while the Beta was based from day 1 on the 450 bike. If you compare any Beta 4T to a KTM 450, they are close. The other parts you are referring are not correct and you should look again. Clutch master its the same with KTM (Brembo) while f/brake is Nissin (don't understand which one is 'huge'). ODO is similar size/weight to any KTM/HVA (perhaps you got confused with the RR-S trail tech style odo - this is a USA only model) Rads, I am sure that they are same size with KTM (increased resistance to boiling comes mainly from the higher pressure rad cap). Hubs got lighter from 2013 2nd gen models. My dialogue is quite sensible. Do you find this thread's title sensible for a brand that is present for the last 10 years in North America, has won National and international championships and its steadily growing? If yes, I guess I am loosing my time.....
  7. Pds bikes are about 1 to 2 KG lighter. HVA is slightly lighter (half to 1kg) than the Beta. This is between 2018 300 models. For my riding tastes Beta's weight distribution, ergonomics, chassis setup are preferred. Also I prefer some other details regarding engineering over KTM. That's personal Hans and you may feel exactly the opposite which is your right. Do we have to argue about that?
  8. dirtbird

    MY 2019 BYOB

    OK, this is Fabrizio Dini, former European MX champion, Beta Factory rider (2010-2012) and since then Beta race team manager. Very low-profile and polite man.
  9. dirtbird

    MY 2019 BYOB

    My best man... I'll ask him for a translation. Or ged93...
  10. dirtbird

    MY 2019 BYOB

    That's part of the updates. The cartridges are new. The uppers have now decent anodizing (Beta's claim) Axle lugs are new with completely different clamping. Rear shock body is 46mm (instead of 50). More when (if) I ride them on September.
  11. dirtbird

    Race edition zokes

    19mm for the bottom nut. 49mm wrench for the top of the cartridge (but a 50 will work as well). Special make socket for the inside part of the cartridge (but similar with the KYB).
  12. dirtbird

    MY 2019 BYOB

    Duane I think you got it wrong here. The boingers fore and aft have many updates this year which promotes them as new. The BYOB FACTORY Suspension its just aftermarket Ohlins or RE Sachs forks sold by Beta Usa.
  13. Are you talking about riders/owners? If yes, I have exactly the opposite idea. Used bikes bought from Italy were in good condition and generally their state was reflected in their price while bikes bought from Central Europe ( Germany, Belgium etc.) where poorly maintained. Of course this is quite subjective since my bike-sample is less than 10 bikes but that's my experience.
  14. Yes but they fixed that. Get the new strap...
  15. If you are used to SSS and AER then you want the CC SACHS fork. However... The 2019 standard RR models have new suspension components (again from Sachs - ZF, that's a given). Std OC forks this year on the adjustment part are following the XPLOR route, one leg adjusts rebound and one leg compression and preload. However the similarities end there since on the inside both legs have normal compression and rebound circuits and are working the same, only low speed adjustability differs (the XPLOR compression leg has a metal valve instead of a traditional piston with mid valve-rebound shim stack). They also have claimed that this year they have paid special attention to the anodizing in order to eliminate previous years problems. Rear shock is new as well with smaller diameter body and they claim that its damping is more stable when hot. It's diameter (46mm) is practically similar to the Fox RC3. In case that OC forks are not enough, your options are to wait for the RE version (CC forks) or go the cartridge set route. My preference list would be: 1 DalSoggio sphere 2 KYB SSS 3 MX tech Luckies 4 WP CV (if available) 5 Ohlins ttx One small note. I have tested statically the fork action on few brand new bikes (as soon as they were unboxed). What I immediately noticed was the very fluid action without any static friction. In the past, whether the forks were made by Marzocchi or Sachs, they needed min 10hrs to break in andstart working freely. Same for the shock. So I can't answer your question directly but I suggest to find a way and test-ride a new 19.