Jump to content


  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Community Reputation

10 Neutral

About duck450smr

  • Rank
    TT Newbie

Profile Information

  • Location
  1. Thanks for the confirmation. The bike came with a bunch of non-KTM parts (LED tail/brake light, turn signals, combo switch, etc...) so I think it makes the most sense just to wire my own wiring harness.
  2. I'm going to make my own wiring harness to get my new-to-me 2005 450 SMR street legal. It looks to me like the best place to ground the wiring harness would be to use a ring terminal under the tank on the front bolt of the ignition coil since I see some other grounds hooked up there. Just checking to see if I'm on the right track.
  3. duck450smr

    Making a KTM 450 SMR Street Legal - Electrical

    I decided I'd be better off building my own wiring harness. I'm really comfortable going the DIY route as I've wired tons of stuff on my other bikes so I have a good idea what I'm doing and how to wire stuff so it lasts. Here's what came with the bike that I'll use: KTM 35W headlight KTM voltage regulator/rectifier 4 Lockhart Phillips 122-0031 turn signals Rear brake switch Aftermarket LED brake/tail/ license light Aftermarket headlight/turn signal/horn combo switch Here's what I've bought: Turn signal relay ($9) 5 Ah 12V sealed lead acid battery ($15 shipped) Four slot aux fuse block ($9 shipped) Bar end mirrors ($25) (I'll probably need to spend another $10 on open-ended grips for use with the bar end mirrors) Stuff I've got laying around: TomTom Rider GPS (running some 3rd party software to serve as a large digital speedometer) Relay Horn BMW K75S dash pad with igntion swtich/key - that looks like it will work OK on the KTM bars. It has a three position switch which I'll wire up so it's: 1) Off and bike won't run 2) On with no lights except the headlight will work if turned on at the headlight switch 3) On with power to everything and street legal If it looks like I've got enough spare power once I've got things going then I'll probably wire up some Symtec heated grips($40) to AC in the fall. I have some spare sheet aluminum in the basement to I plan to make my own mounting plate for under the seat and mount the following components to it to keep things organized: Battery Voltage regulator Power relay Turn signal relay Fuse block For grouping/protecting the wires I have a cheap local source for various sizes of heat shrink tubing in four foot lengths. Here's a schematic for the wiring that I drafted yesterday. I plan ro run the headlight on AC and everything else on DC. Everything should be here by next week and I'll dig in.
  4. duck450smr

    Making a KTM 450 SMR Street Legal - Electrical

    He told me he had two offers of $3800 he'd turned down. Wasn't sure if he was telling the truth but offered him $4k on the spot that I had in my pocket. I was going to go home and get my trailer since I'd ridden there but he offered to throw it in his truck and deliver it to my house in Seattle which was cool. Saved me from having to register my trailer since I only use it for emergencies and don't keep the tabs current unless I need it. The "I've got everything to make it street legal" was not really true but Im dealing with that.
  5. duck450smr

    Making a KTM 450 SMR Street Legal - Electrical

    I paid $4k for it. I really tend to believe that it has incredibly low hours given how clean it is. There isn't a spec of dirt on it and the air filter looks brand new. Anyhow, the plot thickens: I emailed the following picture to Trailtech tech support guys to see if they could be of help in determining what I've got. Their reply was that it didn't look like theirs but was probably stock EXC Parts. From looking at a few EXC wiring diagrams and the wiring colors I think they may be right. Here's the wiring harness that came in the box of parts with the bike. The guy told me at was a Euro EXC harness but given other misinfo from him who knows? (He bought the bike a couple of years ago and didn't do much with it.) The part number on the tag is worn and hard to read but I THINK it is 594.11.07?.000 Here's the voltage regulator on the wiring harness: From the KTM wiring diagrams I've looked at the colors to it's connector seem to agree: Brown, Yellow, White, Yellow-Red: Here's a sample from a KTM EXC wiring diagram which leads me to beleive that I mihgt be able to just connect the voltage regulator to the yellow and white wires and get 12V DC out of the Yellow-Red wire: (with the brown wire grounded of course) So the question becomes how many watts can I get from the stator? I pulled the bulb from the EXC headlight I've installed and it says it's 35/35W. In addition to that I need to run an LED tail light setup (as LEDs that can't draw very much current) and four little Lockhart Phillips 122-0031 turn signals. In the meantime I fabricted some stuff and got the LED tail light and plate mounted under the rear fender. (I put the turn signals up at a 45 degree angle because it looked like the right one might get melted by the exhaust if pointed straight to the side.)
  6. duck450smr

    Making a KTM 450 SMR Street Legal - Electrical

    Oh, and I plan to use a TomTom Rider GPS as my speedometer/odometer.
  7. So, I just bought this thing. It was advertised as "I've got everything to make it street legal." Well, yeah, sort of. I don't think it's ever been street legal but at least I have a plate for it and the plate number is already on the title so registering it shouldn't be a big deal. I was told that it's been upgraded to a 300W stator. So here's what I got in my box of parts that came with the bike: 1 - Four little Lockhart Phillips turn signals. I've already figured out how and where to mount these. 2 - A nifty little aftermarket LED running/brake/license light that will fit nicely under the rear fender. I'll need to fabricate some mounting hardware to get that and the plate on the bike but I've got that figured out. 3 - The rear brake switch is already installed. No connector on the end, just bare wires. I tested it and it works. 4 - No front brake switch. But I've got a switch from a BMW in my basement and I've figured out a way to install that to work with the KTM brake lever. 5 - A KTM headlight. I installed that today. The front brake line is a little short to make it over the front of the new headlight panel so I had to run it behind the panel. No biggie. 6 - What I'm pretty sure is a non-KTM headlight/turn signal/horn combination switch. I used a continuity tester and have figured out the wiring on that. 7 - No horn. I've got some spare horns in the basement so that's not a big issue. 8 - No mirrors. At least for now I'll get some bar end mirrors on Fleabay so it's at least legal. 9 - A KTM mystery wiring harness. I can read the KTM on the tag but no part number. From looking at the wire colors and some KTM wiring diagrams I've deduced that the little black box I've got attached to the harness is the voltage regulator/rectifier. Since the lights and switches are non-KTM they have different connectors and won't "plug-n-play" with the KTM harness I have. So I'm thinking that my best bet is to use the regulator/rectifier and some turn signal relays and just build my own wiring harness. I've done lots of electrical mods to my other bikes so I'm not a nOOb at wiring and I think it should all be pretty straightforward. So my plan would be to take what shows on the wiring diagrams as yellow and white wires from the generator, run those to the regulator/rectifier and then power my lights and horn from the yellow-red coming out of the regulator/rectifier. Does this seem right to those how know KTMs?
  8. duck450smr

    nOOb seeking advice and ridicule

    Thanks, guys. It's kick start only. I pushed it into the basement and am working on making it street legal and buying current tabs for it. Once I've got that done I'll have a go at starting it. Hopefully this week I'll be riding it.
  9. duck450smr

    nOOb seeking advice and ridicule

    Before I expose myself to the ridicule which I most likely deserve, let me give you guys a little background on me so that you know I’m not a COMPLETE friggin’ moron. I’ve had my MC endorsement since 1987. Over the years I owned a couple of UJM’s(KZ750 and 650 Nighthawk) and rode them occasionally – it was a hobby. In 2000, I purchased a K75RT and got bitten hard by the touring bug. Since then I’ve logged in excess of 100,000 street miles and currently own a K1100RS, a K1100LT and K75S that I completely rebuilt from the ground up and converted to a paralever. I also rebuilt a K100RS4V from the ground up. I’m an Iron Butt member with an SS1000(and a few undocumented thousand mile days), a Bun Burner Gold(1,500+ miles in 24 hours) and I rode coast to coast in 36 hours. I do all of my own maintenance on my bikes and I’m a moderator on the K1100 forum and though I don’t claim guru status I’m probably one of the more K bike proficient people around. So, now that you know I’m a serious somewhat seasoned rider, I’ll expose what a nOOb I am in thumperland. A little over a year ago I decided that I needed to get a little dirty. Not single track or crawling over boulders but I’ve ridden a few 250 enduros that I rented in some bum**** third world countries and had a blast doing so. I really just wanted something that would let me explore forest service roads and the like. Initially I was looking at stuff like DRs but then decided that what I really wanted was a supermoto since I wasn’t looking into doing serious single track stuff. Fast forward to today. I bought a 2005 KTM 450 SMR with supposedly only 8 hours on it. It’s been down on the right side once and has some minor scuffs but is incredibly clean so I’m inclined to believe the eight hours figure. The title is street plated and it came with the wiring harness and all of the lights/parts to make it street legal. Here’s a pic: So, how do you start the friggin’ thing? Of course I made the guy start it before I bought it but to be honest I really wasn’t paying attention. It didn’t come with an owners manual and I’ll be honest – I have no clue what buttons/levers to set before I kick start it. I had a scoot in college and my KZ750 had kick start so I do know how to kick start a bike but I don’t know what to do on this bike. I have thick skin and a good sense of humor so if you want to poke fun at me I’m cool with that. I just need to know how to start my new-to-me bike.