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  1. GavMac78

    Winding sound

    I think he might be asking the kind as well. Dyno, Regular, Hybrid, Synthetic?
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    YSS rear shock

    Not that I know of. I had Firefox change mine for a fee.
  3. Confirmed - a quick ride down the street and it does come up into a wheelie MUCH better. I'm still not a pro at riding them, but they sure do work better when the bike is set up correctly.
  4. After all this talk about spring rates, free sag, race sag and working on the YSS shock on the 230. I got a wild hair to put a tape measure on the CRF150F. Prior to this, I just (wrongfully) assumed - it's a play bike, it's meant for 100# teens not my 165#, it's good enough for the 130# Girlfriend, it's not worth the time/effort, there isn't much to adjust. Now, I did do an oil change and the uncork/rejet, swapped tires and lubed a few "easy to reach" moving parts. But to be totally honest, I really haven't done JACK to the 150. Been way to wrapped up in the 230 and like I said, "It's just a 150." Apparently I need to re-adjust my priorities and get to the basics of this bike. Free sag - 3 inches!! Say WHAT?!! I just thought my weight on a small bike made the shock sink that much. No wonder it bottoms a lot. And seems hard to get the front wheel off the ground. Of course this was totally wrong thinking, it's the same shock as the 230, it should have "about" the same rider weight range. At this point, I freaked and got to adjusting it. Which means I didn't get a race sag number. Reset the free sag to 1.25" and got a race sag of around 3", should be a little less for the GF at 130lbs. Bike feels better. IMAGINE THAT!! Moral of the story - It's still a bike, it still has all the same moving parts, it still need to be checked, adjusted and lubed. Looks like I'll be making a To-Do list for the CFR150F.
  5. GavMac78

    CRF230F vs CRF250F

    Apparently I didn't finish my edit. There was this one too. Probably still to far away. https://eastidaho.craigslist.org/mcy/d/ririe-2009-crf-230/6862160354.html They can be a bit of a challenge to find. I drove a little over 3 hours one way to buy my buddy's.
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    CRF230F vs CRF250F

    How far away from Miles City are you? https://billings.craigslist.org/mcd/d/miles-city-2013-honda-crf230f/6859597948.html
  7. GavMac78

    CRF230F vs CRF250F

    Pretty sure that the 4 guys that have owned both have already commented. Not sure there is much new info out there at the moment. Best of luck with your decision. I have the 230 and love it. I'd be up for the 250 if I was in the market. I'd probably go 250 if it was only a $200 difference.
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    CRF230F vs CRF250F

    https://thumpertalk.com/search/?q=crf250f&type=forums_topic&nodes=50
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    CRF230F vs CRF250F

    Search TT my friend. Opinions are out there.
  10. GavMac78

    YSS rear shock

    Just found this again. Seems the 485lb spring on Dustins bike should be just about right for him if we are comparing to the Hagon.
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    YSS rear shock

    Not sure where to even start! Quickest answer - According to Klaus the USA YSS distrubutor the stock shocked YSS should be "sufficient" for a 230lb rider. Stock is a 115 nmm or 656lb spring. That said, I ended up with a 85nmm or 485lb spring. After 6 hours of varied riding, Dustin says (his opinion) that the shock is still too stiff for trail riding. However this could be skewed due to the free sag being set to high. He wasn't around to help me set it. So just set it at .75" and called it good. I am going to back it off a bit more and see what he thinks at 1" or maybe even a tad more. I feel like this might be about the right spring for Dustin and possibly still a little stiff for a lighter rider. I admit, I have not spent a lot of time on his bike so I don't really have much input on how the YSS compares to the Hagon. But I'm also 180# ride ready, so it's not an equal comparison. His shock is definitely stiffer than the Hagon. I should also point out that he had a couple rides on the stocker and didn't think it was all that bad. For reference, Dustin is 41, rides like a banshee, been riding since he was a kid, done some weekend racing as a teen and young adult, used to wrench on bikes for friends. He's not an expert but he does know a bit about bikes and the feel of them. His last bike before the 230 was a CR250 2-stroke, about 8 years ago. I believe he is of the opinion that the 230 is what it is - a heavy, low powered, under sprung, super fun, trail/play bike. So after reading other posts I decided to give the YSS a go. I talked by buddy, Dustin, into buying one for his 2004 CRF230F. Read way to many posts about spring rates and the Hagon being too lightly sprung for his 225+lb riding weight. So I emailed Firefox in the UK and asked for a YSS sprung for his weight. They had to order the spring from the factory in Thailand so it took 6+ weeks. Otherwise it would have been to me in 10 business days. No problem. Spring finally shows up. Get it installed. It's STIFF. Like, I backed it completely off and couldn't get any free sag! Emailed FX and was told that it was the correct set up given the info that I provided. They even commented that they had done the same set up for locals with rave reviews. I am perplexed. We ride and the damn thing is like a pogo stick. I can see his ass end hopping off the ground as he's riding. Several emails back and forth to no avail. I finally spoke with their suspension guru who's been doing their work for 20 years. Turns out the UK only gets the CFR230 "L" version. Which is considerably heavier than the "F" version. Even though I told them it was for an F, they set it up for an L with additional weight of the rider. No wonder it was so STIFF. Glad we figured this out. Up to that point, they wanted me to pay shipping for them to send the stock spring. Obviously not happy about that being that I paid extra for the spring in the first place but didn't get the right thing. Anywhoo, they finally got a replacement spring in the mail. I got it swapped and the above is the most recent report. This experience got me thinking about a few things. The YSS shock list found here https://www.yss.co.th/downloads/20170531051935.pdf does not state which model this shock is intended for. But includes "(heavy duty)" in the model column. It has me wondering if the stock YSS is meant for heavier riders and/or the heavier L model. Reading other posts the 600lb spring on other shocks seems to be the go to. Which I find odd because Dustin thinks this 485lb is still stiff. I should clarify that he thinks it's stiff and needs more rebound or to slow down the rebound more. Hoping that more free sag will help with this. Someone else also posted that they have the stock YSS and if seems "bouncy" at times. He still likes it, says it better, but why would it be bouncy. I believe he is closer to the 185# mark. I'll try to find his quote. At this point I could email FX and see what kind of input they might have. I could also contact Klaus and see what his thoughts are. Based on just those 2 comments, it leads me to believe that the YSS in stock form might still be too stiff and a swap to a lighter spring might be worth doing. That and the replacement spring that FX sent was the lighter 85nm not the stock 115nm. But again, I'd contact someone to get more info if I was looking. Based on my research and experience I believe that these are the available options for the YSS. But a professional input from Klaus or FX would important in picking the correct spring for the YSS. Springs are listed like so 46-115-220. They stand for - inside diameter - rate in Newton MM - length in mm. Stock 46-115-220 = 656lb spring rate Current 56-85-215 = 485lb spring rate I was originally send at 56-130-230 = 742lb Potential other springs that would fit the shock body. 1 - 56-100-215 = 571lb 2 - 56-85-215 = 485lb 3 - 46-80-220 = 456lb These might just have enough length to comfortably fit on the threads. 1 - 56-75-185 = 428lb 2 - 56-85-185 = 485lb 3 - 56-95-185 = 542lb 4 - 56-100-185 = 571lb 5 - 56-110-185 = 628lb You might be able to go up to in spring rate but you would need to have a shorter length in order to set the sag. But the original spring that I was sent was definitely way too stiff!! Again, I'd chat with some professional before making a purchase.
  12. GavMac78

    YSS Rear Shock

    Not sure where to even start! Quickest answer - According to Klaus the USA YSS distrubutor the stock shocked YSS should be "sufficient" for a 230lb rider. Stock is a 115 nmm or 656lb spring. That said, I ended up with a 85nmm or 485lb spring. After 6 hours of varied riding, Dustin says (his opinion) that the shock is still too stiff for trail riding. However this could be skewed due to the free sag being set to high. He wasn't around to help me set it. So just set it at .75" and called it good. I am going to back it off a bit more and see what he thinks at 1" or maybe even a tad more. I feel like this might be about the right spring for Dustin and possibly still a little stiff for a lighter rider. I admit, I have not spent a lot of time on his bike so I don't really have much input on how the YSS compares to the Hagon. But I'm also 180# ride ready, so it's not an equal comparison. His shock is definitely stiffer than the Hagon. I should also point out that he had a couple rides on the stocker and didn't think it was all that bad. For reference, Dustin is 41, rides like a banshee, been riding since he was a kid, done some weekend racing as a teen and young adult, used to wrench on bikes for friends. He's not an expert but he does know a bit about bikes and the feel of them. His last bike before the 230 was a CR250 2-stroke, about 8 years ago. I believe he is of the opinion that the 230 is what it is - a heavy, low powered, under sprung, super fun, trail/play bike. So after reading other posts I decided to give the YSS a go. I talked by buddy, Dustin, into buying one for his 2004 CRF230F. Read way to many posts about spring rates and the Hagon being too lightly sprung for his 225+lb riding weight. So I emailed Firefox in the UK and asked for a YSS sprung for his weight. They had to order the spring from the factory in Thailand so it took 6+ weeks. Otherwise it would have been to me in 10 business days. No problem. Spring finally shows up. Get it installed. It's STIFF. Like, I backed it completely off and couldn't get any free sag! Emailed FX and was told that it was the correct set up given the info that I provided. They even commented that they had done the same set up for locals with rave reviews. I am perplexed. We ride and the damn thing is like a pogo stick. I can see his ass end hopping off the ground as he's riding. Several emails back and forth to no avail. I finally spoke with their suspension guru who's been doing their work for 20 years. Turns out the UK only gets the CFR230 "L" version. Which is considerably heavier than the "F" version. Even though I told them it was for an F, they set it up for an L with additional weight of the rider. No wonder it was so STIFF. Glad we figured this out. Up to that point, they wanted me to pay shipping for them to send the stock spring. Obviously not happy about that being that I paid extra for the spring in the first place but didn't get the right thing. Anywhoo, they finally got a replacement spring in the mail. I got it swapped and the above is the most recent report. This experience got me thinking about a few things. The YSS shock list found here https://www.yss.co.th/downloads/20170531051935.pdf does not state which model this shock is intended for. But includes "(heavy duty)" in the model column. It has me wondering if the stock YSS is meant for heavier riders and/or the heavier L model. Reading other posts the 600lb spring on other shocks seems to be the go to. Which I find odd because Dustin thinks this 485lb is still stiff. I should clarify that he thinks it's stiff and needs more rebound or to slow down the rebound more. Hoping that more free sag will help with this. Someone else also posted that they have the stock YSS and if seems "bouncy" at times. He still likes it, says it better, but why would it be bouncy. I believe he is closer to the 185# mark. I'll try to find his quote. At this point I could email FX and see what kind of input they might have. I could also contact Klaus and see what his thoughts are. Based on just those 2 comments, it leads me to believe that the YSS in stock form might still be too stiff and a swap to a lighter spring might be worth doing. That and the replacement spring that FX sent was the lighter 85nm not the stock 115nm. But again, I'd contact someone to get more info if I was looking. Based on my research and experience I believe that these are the available options for the YSS. But a professional input from Klaus or FX would important in picking the correct spring for the YSS. Springs are listed like so 46-115-220. They stand for - inside diameter - rate in Newton MM - length in mm. Stock 46-115-220 = 656lb spring rate Current 56-85-215 = 485lb spring rate I was originally send at 56-130-230 = 742lb Potential other shock that would fit the shock body. 1 - 56-100-215 = 571lb 2 - 56-85-215 = 485lb 3 - 46-80-220 = 456lb These might just have enough length to comfortably fit on the threads. 1 - 56-75-185 = 428lb 2 - 56-85-185 = 485lb 3 - 56-95-185 = 542lb 4 - 56-100-185 = 571lb 5 - 56-110-185 = 628lb You might be able to go up to in spring rate but you would need to have a shorter length in order to set the sag. But the original spring that I was sent was definitely way too stiff!! Again, I'd chat with some professional before making a purchase.
  13. GavMac78

    CRF230F: Suspension for a heavier rider

    Not sure where to even start! Quickest answer - According to Klaus the USA YSS distrubutor the stock shocked YSS should be "sufficient" for a 230lb rider. Stock is a 115 nmm or 656lb spring. That said, I ended up with a 85nmm or 485lb spring. After 6 hours of varied riding, Dustin says (his opinion) that the shock is still too stiff for trail riding. However this could be skewed due to the free sag being set to high. He wasn't around to help me set it. So just set it at .75" and called it good. I am going to back it off a bit more and see what he thinks at 1" or maybe even a tad more. I feel like this might be about the right spring for Dustin and possibly still a little stiff for a lighter rider. I admit, I have not spent a lot of time on his bike so I don't really have much input on how the YSS compares to the Hagon. But I'm also 180# ride ready, so it's not an equal comparison. His shock is definitely stiffer than the Hagon. I should also point out that he had a couple rides on the stocker and didn't think it was all that bad. Side note - I did put in Bruces Rods with both BBR springs. He is really happy with the front end. Definitely stiffer than my Bruce Rods and cut stock springs/spacers. Like RedMesa said - JUST RIDE!!
  14. GavMac78

    Crf100 tank fit crf150f?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/03-05-Honda-Crf-150f-Gas-Tank/192866909880?hash=item2ce7c37eb8%3Ag%3AEpMAAOSwf2pclVJj&LH_ItemCondition=3000&frcectupt=true
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