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  1. XR Fan

    1987 XR 250 Clutch issue...

    I've had the bike just over 1 year. I've put 5 hours on it maximum. In that time, i've changed oil 3 times. I clean air filter after each ride. Oil was changed before my ride a couple days ago. Oil level exactly as per manual in terms of amount and how to check properly. No shavings no grit on any of the changes- and I looked very closely. Bike was well warmed up before each change and bike was also allowed to drain completely. Change that was most recently done was with recommended Honda GN4 oil . Oil level was and is perfect per Honda rec of how to accurately check level. If I rock bike back and forth, doesn't want to go thru all the gears. I plan to change oil again but am feeling like this may be a bigger issue. Going to pull clutch apart and have look at the plates as suggested. Thanks for all responses so far....
  2. Okay Thank you
  3. Am I looking at a bent or broken SHIFT FORK...? Been asking some questions and looking things up. If this is the case... my riding season will be on hold for quite a while and I'll have to find a good mechanic.
  4. Also, I do have Honda service manual. It seems to me that there is a certain amount of assumption by the writer of the manual that the person using it has a pretty solid mechanical background. Clearly this isn't me. Does Clymer or Hanyes manuals provide more comprehensive instructions about procedures for a beginner or are they the same? Just curious.
  5. Thanks for your response. I've been working all weekend so I haven't had time to respond. I'm going to try and look at things today, pull a couple things apart and evaluate. SHIFTING. I think there may be an issue other that just the oil / lack of use. a. I can't seem to get through all the gears. (bike is cold, sitting on stand) 1st can be hard to get to but I can eventually get it. It will go through 2nd, and 3rd but I am not able to to go past that very often. I was able to get into 4th once last night- I just tried once when I go home from work.... b. Also, I have a very difficult time finding neutral. c. I'm not forcing the shifter to do this while it is cold on the stand. It shifts with reasonable pressure but I can't get through all the gears. On my last ride the previous Fall 2017, it did seem a bit hard to shift but I was always able to get through all the gears. On my 50 mile ride a couple of days ago, I could NOT get the bike to shift past third shifting with my TOE. I had to 'heel shift' which was alot more pressure / force to get it into 4th and above to get home. Any ideas of what could this be?
  6. XR Fan

    1987 XR 250 Clutch issue...

    Thanks for your response. I've been working all weekend so I haven't had time to respond. I'm going to try and look at things today, pull a couple things apart and evaluate. I plan to wipe plates, soak in oil and reinstall. I'll work at adjusting clutch once this is done. SHIFTING. I think there may be an issue other that just the oil / lack of use. a. I can't seem to get through all the gears. (bike is cold, sitting on stand) 1st can be hard to get to but I can eventually get it. It will go through 2nd, and 3rd but I am not able to to go past that very often. I was able to get into 4th once last night- I just tried once when I go home from work.... b. Also, I have a very difficult time finding neutral. c. I'm not forcing the shifter to do this while it is cold on the stand. It shifts with reasonable pressure but I can't get through all the gears. On my last ride the previous Fall 2017, it did seem a bit hard to shift but I was always able to get through all the gears. On my 50 mile ride a couple of days ago, I could not get the bike to shift past third shifting with my toe. I had to 'heel shift' which was alot more pressure / force to get it into 4th and above to get home. Any ideas of what could this be? Thanks again for any info.
  7. Thanks for your response. Good info and insight as to possible use / abuse of clutch even with low hrs..... I am 3rd owner. All info / history from 2nd owner who seemed to be a straight shooter and was (is) a pretty seasoned off road enduro rider. Apparently first owner hardly used bike. He dumped it in his field once and there is a mild 'rub' mark on the side plastic that would indicate this happened. Sat in his heated garage but was started and ran several times each season to keep things moving. Second owner got it and hardly used it (supposedly...) . Sat in his shop as he rode his KDX 200 almost 99% of time. That's about all I know. He rode it about 5 times and changed oil and filter twice. Rotella used was non synthetic 15w 40. I didn't think that synthetic was good for these bikes but I don't have much in the way of mechanical background. I highly doubt changing the oil is my problem- was probably not a smart thing to do but thought I'd try with the Honda GN4. I follow how to change oil / check oil per Service Manual. Appreciate your input. Thanks again.
  8. XR Fan

    1987 XR 250 Clutch issue...

    Thanks for the advice / ideas. I'm on call for my place of work all weekend, but will see what I can figure out based on your recommendations on Monday or Tuesday.
  9. I have a very low hour XR 250 (1987) that the shifting has become increasingly difficult / notchy. Seems to be worse when bike is hot / warm but is still difficult when cold. Rode 50 miles of single track and fire roads last night and couldn't shift very well from 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, etc... It seemed very 'hard' to shift and was notchy. The only consistent way to get bike to shift on the way back was to 'HEEL SHIFT' on the way up for gears 3 through 6. I know this is not right. My 1978 RM 100 shifted better than this (so I know something is very wrong). Although I'm not very mechanically inclined, I have ridden a few older model Hondas and each shifted very well...... Bike seemed to downshift 'okay' but was still notchy. I did have a hard time finding neutral at the end of ride yesterday when I was done- that was a first. I have changed the oil every 2-4 hours of use since I've had it. Oil and filter just changed 2 days ago when getting bike ready for the season. Oil lever is correct and check the exact way as in the Service Manual description. The previous owner who was a Honda guy through and through and used Rotella oil- told me to do same. I used that oil last year but changed to the Honda GN4 when I noticed shifting being a bit hard on the last ride in the previous Fall. Probably not an oil issue (I guess..) but just wanted to try that first. I have had no crashes/ falls to damage the bike / shift lever. A possibly related issue? is that my clutch doesn't seem to be functioning right... The motor only engages when clutch is 3/4 out (away) from the grip. I did a separate post on this but wanted to mention in case it is helpful. Thanks for any useful input. I do have a service manual but don't have a mechanical background. I'd like to see if I can have a reasonable chance to fix first. The local Honda shop where I am is not very helpful and they charge alot of $$$$$ to do almost nothing. I took my bike there once and they scratched the shit out of my rear hub and scratched my swing arm when they put my new rear tire on (you get the idea..). I also recognize that the bike is 31 yrs old..... Not being used much maybe caused some issues? Thanks in advance for help and information.
  10. Looking for some advice/ ideas for my 1987 clutch issue. I have a very low hour (20-25hr max..) 87 XR 250 that I purchased last year. The engine engages only when the clutch is 3/4 the way out from the bar grip. I want to know how to properly adjust the clutch cable and see if adjustment is my problem or if I have a bigger issue. I do have a Honda Service Manual for this bike year but I'll be the first to admit I do not have a mechanical background. I just don't want to ruin anything and / or damage the clutch buy being ignorant and making stupid mistakes / adjustments. I do see I can adjust at the perch and that there are 2 bolts down where clutch goes into right side of motor. I also readily recognize that the bike is 31 yrs old and there may be some issues because of its overall lack of use........ I have been looking through threads this AM. I found one (which I'll paste here). If anyone has any useful tips / advice, would be much appreciated. In addition, shifting seems very notchy on yesterday's ride and has become more notchy with more riding. Getting harder to shift into gear, shift through gears, and hard to find neutral. I will do a separate post on shifting but wanted to add this point in for any of the Gurus who might pose the question about how bike is shifting and current clutch operation. Thanks in advance for any info. and responses. Here's the paste from a previous post on clutch adjustment I found: It's possible to adjust it too tight which causes the clutch to stay partially disengaged, causing a constant slipping condition, wearing out the clutch in short order. You want at least a hair slack in the lever/cable. Try this, turn the adjuster at the lever on the bars all the way in. Then down at the crankcase lever adjustment, adjust that farther away from the lever, leaving enough for the jam nuts to tighten. Then go back up to the lever at the bars and come out with that adjustment til slack in the lever is taken up. See how close this gets you. I usually use my finger to see how tight the cable is at the crankcase lever while actuating the lever at the bars. I want very slight deflection of the cable there with the clutch lever released. If I can tell very little difference deflecting the cable with my finger while activating the clutch lever and it being released, then I have it adjusted too tight. Did you happen to have a new cable installed at the same time as the clutch work? If so, a wrong length cable could be giving you grief too. - Thanks again to everyone.
  11. Thanks everyone for the responses. I was able to get the bike into the exhaust stroke and then gently 'pry' it down and out. There was some internal resistance initially, but everything seems okay. Bike runs great after the fact. Is there a possibility of damage to kickstart gear as bike was running and making a noise for a bit before it stalled out ? There was a grinding noise. What would any of you do? Wondering about any metal 'shavings' from the grinding noise as kickstarter was partially engaged when bike ran for a bit after starter got stuck.... Thanks again for the assistance. It was really appreciated. I love this bike and the last thing I want to do is ruin it over some freak incident. Also... Does anyone know what color white the paint is so I can touch up scratched area(s)? I'm assuming a Honda White, but am unsure about a number for the color. I know the bike is going to get scratched over time for sure; however, I just want to keep up on stuff and not let the metal get rusty in exposed area(s) from being wet.
  12. I have a pretty crazy problem. This has probably never happened to anyone before, but here goes..... I own a mint 1987 XR250R. The bike maybe has 20-25hr on it. It ran fine when I bought it in the Fall. I pulled it out to start it. It started after a few kicks, however on the return of the kickstarter it somehow rotated internally to the left and now it is caught behind the posterior portion of the frame where the exhaust bolts on. When I say caught, it may be more accurate to say completely jammed.I took off the exhaust in hopes of creating some room to move the kickstarter down and out, but this did nothing to help my cause. I cannot push the kickstarter down any further- it feels locked and I don't want to break or bend anything. I thought to pull kickstarter off and I can't. The top portion of the kickstarter lever is f'ing wedged in behind the posterior portion of the frame and won't allow me to simply pull off the kickstarter at it's base. I can only pull it out so far and then the top part of the kickstarter lever wedged against the frame stops it. I did see the screw on the kickstarter top portion where it attaches to the base of the kickstarter. I took this screw out thinking I could 'tap' the kickstarter's top portion off. The top portion looks like is should come off not problem, but it won't. I'm not sure if it simply slides on or slides on and then locks into position with a twist. If it locks with twisting, I have no idea which way to turn it. I do have the factory service manual, and I'm surprised it shows nothing about the kickstart lever coming off. I've hit YouTube and can't get anything. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate it. I apologize in advance if this sounds ridiculous or is a purely elementary fix for someone who's very experienced / mechanically inclined. I'll be the first to admit I am no motorcycle mechanic but can usually do most stuff without incident. Warmer weather is coming to Northern NY and I just want to get the bike ready to go. This certainly isn't helping matters. In addition... the bike started and made are really odd noise after the kickstarter got wedged on its return stroke and then died. I'm hoping it doesn't mean something horrific just happened. Thanks in advance for any info. At this point anything is better than what I'm doing. I know being Sunday afternoon, odds of getting responses are pretty low....
  13. XR Fan

    XR seat cover....

    Thanks for the input. Your help is much appreciated.
  14. I'm very new to this forum. I recently bought a 1987 XR250R. The bike is absolutely beautiful- maybe 25hrs total on machine (likely less...). It is not perfect however, there is a blem in the top of the seat. The blem is a small "L" shaped cut that is less that size of a quarter. I have been looking for a new seat cover. I would like an OEM Honda cover that is exactly like original (blue with XR250R stamped in white on sides as it came from factory). Probably no surprise to many, I'm having an impossible time finding one. I can find many that will work that are aftermarket (ie. Moose Racing, etc...), but can't find a new OEM one anywhere. I do realize the bike is a 1987 and that OEM for this machine is going to be harder to find given that it's now 2017. I have looked at used seats but the ones I have found are not nice enough to put on the bike. Does anyone have any ideas? Suggestions? Note: The blem is likely from the corner of something sharp (ie. piece of metal- maybe small toolbox corner that was sat on top of seat or something of that nature). The seams are all approximated. Seat foam underneath is perfect. Previous owner has put a bit of glue down underneath to hold seams together in an attempt to prevent further tearing / damage. However, since the bike was only one of many in his collection, he did not feel urgent need to fix it. I'd like to get it rectified before riding season resumes here in the North Country of Northern NY. Here's a pic of my bike. If you see how nice it is, you'll likely understand why I'd want to get seat back to 100%. Thanks in advance for any help / suggestions.
  15. XR Fan

    Post Pics of your XR250/400

    1987 XR250R. Recently bought off Honda Collector / Motorcycle enthusiast. Approx 25hr total on machine. Can't wait till Spring so I can enjoy. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close.....
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